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andycwb:
--- Quote from: "thermidorthelobster" ---Isn't there a little bit of contradiction in saying people should be deported if they don't believe in freedom of opinion and the right of freedom of speech, and then saying they should also be deported if they don't agree with Western democracy, Christianity, etc?
I'm an atheist, and I think some Western democracies are corrupt shams. Does that mean I get deported? If so, where's my freedom of speech?
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My own views are somewhere between the two. I strongly believe that if you want to live in Britain, you should accept its values, laws, and culture. I choose to live here (I declined the opportunity to move to the US a few years ago). I don't agree with everything in this country. I don't agree with the corrput sham that our democracy has become. I don't feel that any religion - Christianity, Islam, or Scientology has any more relevant to modern life than, say, a re-enactment society or other historical observance. I choose to accept all of those things, largely because I can't find a better option that doesn't involve learning another language.
But you either accept the law, culture and values of the western world, or leave. You choose.
I also firmly hold the belief that if ANYONE thinks terrorism is a justifiable way to make their viewpoint known, it invalidates that viewpoint for themselves, and anyone else who holds it. If a religion leads to justification of terror, that religion is evil in nature -- just as any religion condoning mass child abuse is evil in nature.
Back to the question of the poll: there are two problems with hanging the low-life behind this. The first is getting trial for treason to actually stick. The bigger one is making a martyr of the evil murderers. What you actually need to do is to prohibit press coverage of terrorist trials. The only thing reported at the end is "the perpetrator was found guilty and sentenced." Don't mention who it was. Don't give their PR agents a chance to glorify their death.
My own solution is to treat terrorists as foreign soldiers mounting an act of war, and to send the army after them.
Lord Shagg-Pyle:
--- Quote from: "BrumLee" ---Two of those linked with the attempted bombings are doctors. Do doctors not have to take a hypocratic oath that they will preserve life and stop pain and suffering?
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I think you'll find that when the extremists are alledgedly being influenced by a higher being, entity, what ever you want to call it, the hypocratic oath is not that high up on their priority list.
MrTFWitt:
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--- Quote from: "skip" ---I belive that If anyone is caught having anything to do with terrorism, they should be deported forthwith, that includes imediate familiy as well, even if they are british citizens.
I realise that it is hard on the families but that kind of action will drive the message home that we are not prepared to accept that kind of behaviour from anyone no matter what race or religion.
I'm sorry but that's the way I feel, No stuff it i'm not sorry at all! why should I be.
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what if its english people involved ? where you going to deport them to?
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Downtown Bagdad, boot them out of an APC wearing a Union jack T-Shirt one saturday morning.
muckmoses:
Do you know what makes me really proud to be British and to sit here typing this?
I CAN SIT HERE TYPING THIS.
When i was at school/college I met people from all nations and religions.
The only group that seemed to cause problems were "The Asians" as we called them. I have no idea what country they were from I can guess the religion.
Another thing I can now do without being called a racist is fly the flag of St George/Union Flag on my Land Rover. That would have been frowned upon 5 + years ago.
I never understood why Scotland flew there's, wales flew theirs.
I was at a Scout camp a long time ago and I dug out the Union Flag and as we had a French National with us I got his out too. He was ecstatic he wrapped himself up in it and was generally well pleased. Our Scouts couldn't have given too hoots about the union flag.
A couple of years ago my then new step daughter found the St Georges flag and did exactly the same as the french guy. That is good, we are once again proud of our selves.
As for the vote hang em - PUBLICLY
blackbob:
see they timed there attacks when the airport was full of kids as it was the first day of summer holidays
how would the muslims like it if we blew up there kids or religious centers think there could be riots in the streets soon
i also think that they should bring our armed forces home to help police the streets
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