Advice for body lift

[clbarclay]

Single biggest factor affecting how long it takes I found was the state of the bushes and the bolts through them. You could always set about renewing the bushes one weekend and then do the rest of the lift the next.

[iomlr]

Single biggest factor affecting how long it takes I found was the state of the bushes and the bolts through them. You could always set about renewing the bushes one weekend and then do the rest of the lift the next.

You'll need to replace the bolts when your doing a lift anyways.

Buy new nuts /bolts and bushes these are relatively cheap. the expensive part if the metal bush holders the majority or yours you should be able to reuse, but you may need to replace a couple but they are expensive...

[buster uk]

How's the lift coming along fella ???? Doing my pajero this weekend (2.5 ") Doing the wife's paj first cos it seem's alot more straight forward and it's already got the bigger tyre's  :twisted: Hoping to do my rangie in the next couple of week's tho, ( it'll look on stilt's for a while tho cos it's got the original wheels/tyre's on  :lol:  )So how is yours coming along ??? Could you do it again now in a weekend ??? or is there just too much to change ? I'll need it straight back on road so I need to know everything that need's to be changed immediatly before hand. Not worried about seat belt mounting point's and bumpers etc cos there is only me using the car ! :roll:

Hi , yes it could be done in a weekend.I had all the mounts in and lifted in one day.Its just the other fiddley bits that need doing afterwards like moving the rad mounts down and making spacers for the floor supports on the back.I still haven't lengthened the tie bolts either,but i haven't put it back on the road yet.I'll take some pictures when i can get the camera working .

I've modded the front bumper to sit higher now also.

[barriesheene]

thanks buster, keep us posted  8)

[buster uk]

Being an auto box thw pipes for thje oil cooler run under the radiator and then through 2 small holes in the body, to solve this you undo the flex pipes behind the radiator, slide out the oil cooler and then either make new holes or reroute the oil coolers steel pipes. Can post pics if you need a clearer explanation.

Oops,forgot all about this.I've lifted the vehicle as you know.Where/what should i be looking for ,damage wise ?

[Range Rover Blues]

If it leaks, you bust it if it doens't chances are it's ok, just look at the pipework routing to make sure nothing is chaffing.  On all mine the rigid pipes are held to the chasis with a tie-wrap, they pass above the chassis to the hairy sauasage ahead of the water rad then feed back to the in-rad heat exchanger.  The pipes from the front of the engine are flexi so the only ones to worry about will be the rigid ones beneath the rad.

[Range Rover Ron]

Why don't you just fit 2" longer springs & shockers?

[clbarclay]

There are various advantages and disadvantages of both suspension and body lifts when compared against each other.


Here are just a few (leaving dampers out of this)

Body lift
Pros: Potentially much chepaer, no change to steering or suspension geometry, centre of gravity is not raised as much due to heavy componet (engine, transmission, chassis etc.) not being raised, extra clearance makes cleaning the chassis easier, every inch of body lift is garanties and extra vertical inch of clearance for bigger tyres. Nominal maximum a RRC/discc can be easily lifted before significant problems arise is 3" (steering shaft needing lengthening), moving the brake MC up 1.5" allowed enough clearance to fit 11" travel dampers on the front of a RRC

Cons: corroded body mounts are often best left alown, lots of connections (auto box oil cooler) that need to be checked, new brakets may need fabricating (not all people have welders). defenders can not easily be body lifted


Suspension lift
Pros: springs are usually a lot easier to change (but I have still spent half a day making new axle mounting brakets to replace corroded origionals), improves approch/breakover/departure angles, typically looks better (thoguh subjective), All 4x4s can be suspension lifted. Changing to longer softer springs for a lift can improve traction on rough terrain (but at the expense of stability on slopes)

Cons: typically costs more, 1" of suspension lift does not neccisserily equal an extra 1" of clearance on full compression for bigger tyres, raises the height of heavy components rasing CofG higher, nomianally the suspension on a LR can only be lifted 2" before expensive problems start to arise, most suspension lifts useually involves stiffer springs which will reduce traction on rough terrain (leaving locked diffs out of this), can reduce axle articulation.

If anybody can think of any more pros or cons then do add them to the lists.


The ideal varies on application and circumstances, my latest 4x4 uses a combination of both for best effect.

[buster uk]

I have a 2" spring lift with proper 2" lift dampers.I have lifted the body 2" to gain more wheel clearance as i want bigger ones and secondly to gain more bodywork to floor/hill/rock clearance.I didn't want to go 4" lift on suspension alone.

RRB,
See what you mean now about the oil cooler pipes  :shock:
Just got away with that one,the metal pipes were bent,but none damaged or flattened.

[Bobtail]

I have a 2" spring lift with proper 2" lift dampers.I have lifted the body 2" to gain more wheel clearance as i want bigger ones and secondly to gain more bodywork to floor/hill/rock clearance.I didn't want to go 4" lift on suspension alone.

RRB,
See what you mean now about the oil cooler pipes  :shock:
Just got away with that one,the metal pipes were bent,but none damaged or flattened.

Any Photo's yet?

[buster uk]

hi,
No sorry.My camera is duff.
Im going off roading with some friends though on sunday and i'll get some taken of the lift,spacers etc. :D

[Bobtail]

hi,
No sorry.My camera is duff.
Im going off roading with some friends though on sunday and i'll get some taken of the lift,spacers etc. :D

Cheers

Looking forward to them as want to do this to mine

Jim

[Bobtail]

hi,
No sorry.My camera is duff.
Im going off roading with some friends though on sunday and i'll get some taken of the lift,spacers etc. :D

Cheers

Looking forward to them as want to do this to mine

Jim

Anything :?:  :D

[buster uk]

Hi guys.
Well to be honest,i got that carried away with the offroading trip i forgot to take the pictures  :oops:
I did take lots but no close ups of the specific lift components.
I have a 2" suspension lift and now with the 2" body lift.
Heres a view from the front :



And one from the rear :



You can see the 2 rear spacers.
I will take some detailed photos next time im out,which wont be long. :D

[Range Rover Blues]

Crikey, that thing's looking a beast now.

[buster uk]

LOL,yeah ,nothing like my sig picture of when i first started going off roading  :D

[Range Rover Blues]

Didn't you go over to coils springs with it too?

[buster uk]

yeah i did.My EAS finally packed in so i thought i may as well lift it if im going to coil spring it so bought the 2" kit,so is got the shock turrets up front like normal.
Just done the same to my dads LSE as his packed in on the first trip off road.

[barriesheene]

Buster,we need a pic of it parked next to a standard one now for full effect  :lol: My wifes pajero is much taller than the green beast and she keeps going on about my offroading tool being too small          :lol:

[clbarclay]

Or just wait untill a shorter person trys to get in :lol: My mum manages the VM with just a 2" lift but the V8 with a total lift of about 5.5" is a little too much.