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Problems in the for sale section.

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Wanderer:
Daz's post says it all really.

It is unfortunate, but it happens with everything where volunteers are concerned, the doers are doing and giving as much time as they can.

The Admin guys dip into their pockets and occasionally have sleepless nights when something they have no real control over goes pear shaped. Those same Admin guys rely on a handful of moderators to take the strain in keeping the club out of legal battles, bad press and general bad feeling between the members.

It would seem to be that there are certain members that enjoy baiting other members. The changes made to the for sale section were to avoid the moderation team from having to spend 90% of their time looking after that forum which meant that others were being overlooked or not given the proper amount of time needed.

Some of these certain members also seem to ignore PMs from the moderation team and lengthen the time taken to deal with moderation matters thereby making it worse for the Admin/Moderation team.

Anyway let's face facts there are a few scenarios but only one of those is really viable to keep Mud Club running in it's present guise which I think we'd all like.

So what makes a forum a good forum?

Good Admin?
Good and fair Moderation team?
Members that play ball and don't rattle cages for a bit of attention when they are bored?

In the main we have all three of those.

What makes MC different?

It is free?
It is friendly?
It is a club without a committee? (things get done quicker)
Swearing isn't allowed (There are fora that allow it so if that's what you want to do go and use them)
It fosters a sense of community where everyone is an equal?
Bullying/baiting is not allowed?
The Admin/Moderation team are made up of handpicked people that don't bear grudges and won't use their position to even up scores?
(Ask some of the people that have been severely moderated over the years and they'll tell you they aren't treated any differently)
The Team actually do discuss matters and keep each other informed.

Anyway I digress. Decisions aren't made to annoy people. They are made with the best interests and the smooth running of Mud Club in mind.

So try looking at things as though you were wearing the Admin guys shoes and you might see the bigger picture.

This post is not aimed specifically at anyone posting in this thread but members in general.

Ed

Keri:
Arnt you going to lock this thread to  :roll: rather than let it run its course *because* "it hasn't got many miles left in it"

After all if it hasn't got many miles left it will disappear fast itself.

Wanderer:
A hint of sarcasm there Keri?

Ed

drutt:

--- Quote from: "Keri" ---Arnt you going to lock this thread to  :roll: rather than let it run its course *because* "it hasn't got many miles left in it"

After all if it hasn't got many miles left it will disappear fast itself.
--- End quote ---


The reason we haven't locked it is for exactly the reason your last sentence is inaccurate ... If we do lock threads we get people posting new ones saying "but, I needed to have the last word!" and then the argument starts up again and again and again and again, ad infinitum.

I'm not going to get drawn into an argument, I think everyone has pointed out everything they need to point out,  as was said, reasonably well by Eeyore (a different person I might add) some people don't like the new scheme, some people agreed with it due to a lack of alternatives.

However, when it comes to baiting moderators and Admins remember that the club is "fun, friendly and free"..  from my perspective taking abuse from members on a daily basis and devoting time I don't have to having my morality, integrity and intelligence questioned at every turn barely qualifies as the first two,  and the club hasn't been the third since it's inception.

I consider the matter closed,  if however anyone feels that they have to reiterate something that has already been said, feel "free"....

Yoshi:
I am not trying to have the last word on the subject here, but i havent seen where in any way its got nasty, all i see is an expression of opinions and a lively debate?

No-one is saying the mods do a bad job, in fact they do a fantastic job, but in instances where threads are being locked because the mods dont like the subject of them, thats going to cause a problem and spark up new threads, like the one Eeyore locked about this, from a personal point of view i saw nothing wrong with it, like this one it was just a debate between people of differing views.

There were also some good ideas put forwards to help the moderation team and to help give user some of what they want, thus compromising a little and keeping mud club the fantastic place it is.

Another idea to propose is that everyone this week donate £2.50 via paypal to show our appreciation because, as stated, the admins do pay for this out of their own pocket when they dont have to.  I am going to do mine now so lets all pool together and show some love man!!!!

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