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Boggert:
I would check with your companies lawyer, but the civvie powers of arrest have changed under the Serious and organised crime bill…….oh god its been ages since I did my training on this so don't rely on me!
I do know some of the security staff in the big smoke carry cuffs and have helped out my colleagues when need be, however be careful you don't start cuffing everyone you catch shop lifting or locking them in offices or you will get sued and possibly arrested your self.
Boggert:
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--- Quote from: "spyke_boi" ---What would the legality of detaining an offender after a fight/robbery using restraints such as handcuffs or the plastic disposable cuffs?
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Wouldn't fastening them upside down from the nearest lamp-post be preferable, with a big sign saying "I Am A Thief' be preferable?
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Good idea... I'll go get the tar and feathers as well.
Bush Tucker Man:
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--- Quote from: "spyke_boi" ---What would the legality of detaining an offender after a fight/robbery using restraints such as handcuffs or the plastic disposable cuffs?
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Wouldn't fastening them upside down from the nearest lamp-post be preferable, with a big sign saying "I Am A Thief' be preferable?
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Good idea... I'll go get the tar and feathers as well.
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Do I detect a hint of sarcasm or not?
Smego:
I am pretty sure you could (English law) be libal for a charge of "commom assualt" if you use a restraint on anyone, it's allowed in the states though! Any one hear from the CPS? Even holding somebody is dodgy unless you are 100% you could justify it in a court of law, I have known people who have amitted to shoplifting getting the charges dropped because they threatend to counter claim for false imprisionment, breach of their cival rights and assuat after being carted off to the "office" best bet... when I was at uni in brighton, there was a club near a "big church", and the bouncers where run by a lady who ran a dojo, her staff where all from there. Most incedents they just dealt with in an amazinly quick and orginised AND freindly manner, even giving free soft drinks to offenders to calm then down sometimes but if they had a person who kept causing trouble on a reguler basis there always seemed to be "other clubbers" who managed to get the offender off the premises without the bouncers even noticing....apparently there were report that these "other clubbers2 would sometimes take the offender down the road for a serious kicking too but of course the bouncer staff where never there to see this and never had anything to do with it!! ;)
Suprisingly this club had a reputation of being very safe to visit and was always full of totti!
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minty:
as most of you are awear i work for santa-pod raceway and we get a fair share of idiots just recently we had to detain a chap who bottled a member of the public and hit another with a 4' wooden stake in the eye takeing off his eye lense it took 5 security personel to restraine him for 20mins on the ground untill the police finaly arrived and done the nessersery with him, now we had handcuffs and cable tyes avalible but without proper training we could be held liable for prosucution from the police (not the person detained) altho thay did piont out that in this event thay would not have done enything it does leave you open to interpertation as to what is reasonable force or not. so best advice is not to use them and get your self in touch with local police and get on a course as we are now doing :wink:
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