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Bob696:
As some of you may have seen on the news there was a fatal accident last week in dudley. A driver lost control of a bus on a steepish hill, carreared into a parked car, killed a pedestrian, went straight through a concrete lamppost and then damaged a row of 4 terraced houses to such an extent that it looks very likely they will be demolished.

I was talking to an eyewitness today who said that after hitting (side swipe) the car the driver leaped out of the cab to leave the bus to wend its merry path of destruction.

My question is, what fault could cause a driver to bail risking life and limb (20-30mph?)?

The driver was taken to hospital and treated for cuts n bruises. There was one passenger who lept from the bus after it burst into flames (ruptured a gas main in the houses) and legged it. He still hasnt been traced !

Bush Tucker Man:

--- Quote from: "Bob696" --- I was talking to an eyewitness today who said that after hitting (side swipe) the car the driver leaped out of the cab to leave the bus to wend its merry path of destruction.

My question is, what fault could cause a driver to bail risking life and limb (20-30mph?)?


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Is it this case??

No 'loyalty' to his passengers??, that seems odd?

'Old Fart' mode selected;
In WW2 (& even now) pilots stayed with the planes for as long as possible to avoid built-up areas.


You still sometimes hear about drivers who give their lives to save others...
Ie; There was a case in Halifax a few years ago where a 8x4 tipper ran out of control & the driver stayed with it (sadly dying, as did people on the street), but he at least tried to steer it for as long as possible

Not the most pleasent of reading, but the driver must have been 'old school'??

Bob696:
Yeap. Thats the crash.

Drift:
Having been a bus driver for 18 years before moving to a nice cumffy office job in our area head office, I cant think of anything other than the complete failing of the air system (brakes) that would warrant me to jump from a bus at 20 MPH  :?
The guy who jumped off must have been standing next to the driver when it happened, otherwise he wouldn't have made it off before the crash.
Which leads me to another question.
If as I mentioned the air system could have possibly gave up causing no brakes then the doors are air operated on 80% of buses and there would /should have been enough air in the system to keep these shut (emergency measure, to stop kiddies falling out if doors fail)
They would have had to force the doors open.
t doesn't take much, but at 20MPH heading to a house it would be difficult.

Leads me to believe the bus was stolen  :wink:   and they had the doors open and weren't used to the vehicle and straight forward crashed it.
Most likley wrong but a good theory  :lol:
Ste

Sider:

--- Quote from: "Drift" ---Having been a bus driver for 18 years before moving to a nice cumffy office job in our area head office, I cant think of anything other than the complete failing of the air system (brakes) that would warrant me to jump from a bus at 20 MPH  :?
The guy who jumped off must have been standing next to the driver when it happened, otherwise he wouldn't have made it off before the crash.
Which leads me to another question.
If as I mentioned the air system could have possibly gave up causing no brakes then the doors are air operated on 80% of buses and there would /should have been enough air in the system to keep these shut (emergency measure, to stop kiddies falling out if doors fail)
They would have had to force the doors open.
t doesn't take much, but at 20MPH heading to a house it would be difficult.

Leads me to believe the bus was stolen  :wink:   and they had the doors open and weren't used to the vehicle and straight forward crashed it.
Most likley wrong but a good theory  :lol:
Ste
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There is one but with your 1st theory. Air brakes are vacuum operated. If for any reason the tanks or lines blow up, the brakes go into emergency mode, slowly stopping the vehicle, and once stopped, applying the parking brakes. The air in the tanks does not apply the brakes, it keeps the brakes from working, until you force the air out with the brake pedal.

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