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Bush Tucker Man:
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LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"
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That's the one job title that thankfully doesn't exist at our Hospital........ yet.
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They like to bang on about peoples rights and if some one is violent to a member of staff then that person is Red carded (Oooooooooh)
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We have the Red & Yellow card system, but I've never seen it used.
--- Quote from: "freelanderpx54" ---All this means is the next time they get admitted to A&E they are fast tracked through the department to get rid of them
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If a patient is known to be violent/abusive, security are informed as soon as he/she walks through the door. Then, at their discretion, the Police can be informed.
--- Quote from: "freelanderpx54" ---A patient was getting mouthy with me and eventually tried to punch me, unfortunately for him I was in the middle of an acrimonious divorce and was having a particularly bad day. Patient was stretchered back to his ward and I felt much better until I got carpeted by HR. I argued my case and there was no further action
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I had my nose broken by a junkie.
He'd been brought into Resus, as he'd been found on a street -corner collapsed & unconcious, so after the 'Narcan' had done its work he caem round :roll:
What a totally charmless individual he turned out to be..............
He started arguing with 2 of the Sisters & a staff-nurse about wanting to leave, we wanted to observe him due to the large lump on his head.
He eventually calmed down & we agreed to his leaving (if he signed himself out)
I was showing him where to get out when he turned round & 'WALLOP!', he caught me a good one on the nose - in front of 5 witnesses, CCTV & another patient.
(one of the other Nurses who was about 5yards away told me later she heard the 'crack' :lol: )
I tried to grab him, but had made the mistake of feeling my nose first, so couldn't hold him due to greasy (blood covered) hands.
Next thing I see, 16stone of (ex- Yorkshire Schoolboys) r*gby playing Doctor slams him into the floor :lol: :lol: :lol:
Then several of Wakefields finest roll up & sling him head first into the van. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Of course since then, we've been told that we are allowed to act in self-defence if we feel our patient, our collegues, or if you yourself feels threatened & really anticipate trouble from a patient.
But we all have doubts as to whether the Trust would side with you, if you're seen to strike a patient, even if you feel threatened - after all a witness may give a perspective that's at odds with your account
--- Quote from: "freelanderpx54" ---With diversity training they should tell the patients and visitors that they should speak to the staff in the same manner that they want to be spoken to - they might get a bit further
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Good grief :shock: , that wouldn't work, it's not PC to tell people how to behave (unless it suits the cause of the PC brigade)
Highlander1:
Hi Bush tucker man
You can use as much force as is necessary to regain compliance and control of the situation anything from shouting at them to getting them out by dragging them by the arm, or if required and you know your going to be attacked stop the attack by bringing them down.
Just ask yourself is it justified. but do it quickly and have the Bds before they have you. Self defence isn't retaliation IE once the knifes gone in you don't then give him a pasting.
You've got to protect yourself and others using force if necessary.
If someone came over the wire and you shot him. You'd have committed a crime if you couldn't prove that you thought he was about to kill some IE gun raised bomb on back etc.
If a car was driving deliberately at you you couldn't shoot unless there was no way of jumping out of the way.
Hope the nose healed OK.
H1
Bush Tucker Man:
--- Quote from: "Highlander1" ---Hi Bush tucker man
You can use as much force as is necessary to regain compliance and control of the situation anything from shouting at them to getting them out by dragging them by the arm, or if required and you know your going to be attacked stop the attack by bringing them down.
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I was told I'd be put on a 'Control & Restraint' course after the event, but when asked why I didn't attend, I had to say I never received notification (this was in early 2006. Nose broken October 2005)
About a month ago, one of our Consultants secretarys gave me a letter with an apology, she'd found it behind a filing cabinet (must have been on top & slid off?)
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Just ask yourself is it justified. but do it quickly and have the Bds before they have you. Self defence isn't retaliation IE once the knifes gone in you don't then give him a pasting.
You've got to protect yourself and others using force if necessary.
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Well there's obviously plenty of loud & aggresive drunks that deserve it, but I've never seen it done yet by staff.
Restraint of a drunken/head-injured patient who is 'thrashy'/combative on a trolley happens all the time though, but that's only in order to treat them - I walked in on Saturday morning & had to help with this before even havin a cup of tea :cry:
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Hope the nose healed OK.
H1
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It did eventually, but is still very offset :lol:
Still he ended up in Court, after much persuasion - by members on here as well!! (I didn't want to be an 'Ambulance Chaser') I got compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board
Lord Shagg-Pyle:
Good on you BTM, for pushing that.
I recall the 'good old days' when there was such a thing as summary justice, not that I condone that sort of thing of course! :roll:
I had been injured along with 12 other officers following a huge disturbance on Great Yarmouth Seafront., and ended up with fractured ribs after being stamped on. Nice. I was taken to the local A&E and was met by the staff, who were absoulutely ace.
Shortly after one of the 'main opposition players' was brought in. He was being exteremely obnoxious to the staff and hade to have stitches after he had headbutted a baton. It was pointed to the staff what part he had played.
Funnily enough they became very short of anesthetic all of a sudden. I wonder how that happened? :?
thermidorthelobster:
--- Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man" ---Of course since then, we've been told that we are allowed to act in self-defence if we feel our patient, our collegues, or if you yourself feels threatened & really anticipate trouble from a patient.
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We're allowed to do something similar with the kids at school - physically intervene if we think they are going to injure themselves, another person or even the school's property. I think that refers to restraint, though, rather than actually lamping them.
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