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TDi90:

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Oh do you like the new Avitar? he he he
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yes  :lol:  very good.
have you seen hot fuzz boggert?

BigBlue90:
Boggert,

Nice new avatar!!! :D

Problem with the Taser at the moment is that it cannot be deployed without conventional firearms alongside it.

I personally think that the taser as a less lethal option is a brilliant step forward in dealing with knife/sharps related crime and violence. Having seen it in action it causes less injury than the conventional baton and affects less bystanders than 'cs'.

Saying that I think that it should be carried by front line officers on a daily basis rather than specialist departments who may not be there when it is needed most.

I don't quite agree with the 'If we arm then the criminals will arm' view on life. When you work in certain departments you begin to realise how readily available firearms are to the criminal fraternity and how often they are carried on the streets. It is sometimes scary to see what the criminals carry and how far they are willing to use them. It is impossible to deal with  an armed drug dealer high on crack carrying an automatic weapon with just a baton and cs. The taser only has a range of 20 feet!!! In these types of situation conventional firearms are the only way of dealing with it.

Boggert:

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Oh do you like the new Avitar? he he he
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yes  :lol:  very good.
have you seen hot fuzz boggert?
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Yep laughed my ass off... Going to buy it on vid as soon as its out.

The problem with CS is its old and won't affect some people and Dogs, Captor or Pava is good (neat chilli spray) is better but you must get the eyes.

We had a job recently where a guy with a knife was threatening officers. An Traffic ARV as called because he is known to be very violent. Any how he put on his coat and walks out of his house up the road towards me with 4 armed officers running behind shouting the usual "Stop armed police" (got to say I was worried) CS was ignored, 6'3" officer was brushed off when trying to take him down. So my colleague drew his Taser gave him a warning shout then shot him and he went down like a sack of spuds! Easy to cuff no struggle and then bundled into the van for a sprint to custody.

Easy... no long term damage to officers or public.  Which is how it should be.

Lord Shagg-Pyle:
I wish they would Taser the Chief of Hampshire. It might put some life into the miserable old git!
Anyway, being serious, for a very short period, my thoughts on the matter are this.
Guns. I personally would not want to carry one full time. I have carried while with the reserve forces, but not as a Plod. I have seen some of the officers that are on the firearms teams, and while the vast majority are very competent, there are some that remind me of a mix of Robocop, The Terminator and Tackleberry. Very scary.

Tasers. Never carried one, but I think they are a brilliant idea. I would certainly have no probs with having one of those on me.

Some of the alternatives to firearms are below

http://www.pepperball.com/

http://www.ifexuk.com/

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/B8677DFC-E705-452E-81D1-12D5DAF04C2C/0/TT121_BatonGuns.pdf

I've used a baton gun and they are scary and are quite effective.
The Ifex system has been tested and was very effective as a crowd control weapon. Unfortunately, the Home Office doesn't like things like that. Too aggresive. :roll:
The pepperball gun is a great idea, but again the Home Office stepped in.

Those are my thoughts. In the mean time, I shall continue to wave my piece of collapsible steel rod at angry crowds and people with weapons. I'm sure that will stop them! :shock:


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Wanderer:
TBH I have no problem with Tasers etc. as they aren't going to be used on me and I have no problem with some scroat getting taserred. I'd also like to see these people that resist arrest being given an immediate 3 months minimum in prison for running from the police or resisting arrest.

I'm sick to death of seeing UK programs where the miscreants steal a car, refuse to stop and then cause extra damage when they crash having put lots of people's lives in the process, Then go on to leg it and resist when caught.
They end up with community service. There's no deterrent to resisting arrest and it's generally accepted that legging it from the police is Ok as they were only going to "stitch the person up"

Feel free to discuss.

Ed

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