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landrover 110, the better engine
Rich_P:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---The best engine in a 110 is a TD5 (or possibly a new tranny one)
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Not in the middle of a desert/africa where there are no computers to use! :P
Both the 200TDi and 300TDi are very similar in spec and performance in standard form. The 200TDi sounds like a tractor, where as the 300TDi is more refined and doesn't sound so tractorish.
When it comes to a 110, out of the two, I'd just buy whichever happens to be in the best condition. The 300TDi does have the advantage of the R380 gearbox though...
smo:
--- Quote from: "Rich_P" ---
--- Quote from: "smo" ---The best engine in a 110 is a TD5 (or possibly a new tranny one)
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Not in the middle of a desert/africa where there are no computers to use! :P
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What a load of rubbish, typical tripe spouted from someone who has never owned driven and maintained a TD5 :roll:
mmgemini:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---
--- Quote from: "Rich_P" ---
--- Quote from: "smo" ---The best engine in a 110 is a TD5 (or possibly a new tranny one)
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Not in the middle of a desert/africa where there are no computers to use! :P
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What a load of rubbish, typical tripe spouted from someone who has never owned driven and maintained a TD5 :roll:
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It's not a load of rubbish. I'm with Rich P on this. It can be a life or death situation out there.
I spoke to a Discovery TD5 owner in Moremi. He'd broken down in Moremi with his TD5.
So.
You get a lift to Maun. That's half a day. Or send a message with a stranger,
Then the recovery truck had to travel from Maun to Moremi dirt roads remember.
The dealer in Maun didn't have the equipment to test so it was on the back of a truck to Jo'berg.
Simple isn't it.
Why do you think Land Rover are now offering the Defender Kalihari in South Africa.
I take it you have taken a TD5 into either Moremi or the CKGP ? I wouldn't. I would prefere something I can fix with a hammer.
I've just read some good horror stories about the Ford engine today.
Porny:
Sorry...
But I agree with Smo. A td5 is still an engine, and thus works on exactly the same principles... but god forbid it's got an ECU :shock:
There will always be fauts with both engines that your run of mill bush mechanic will not be able to fix. Whilst I agree a Tdi is a very simple engine, a Td5 isn't that much more complicated... certain symptons will always have certain faults.
A lot of it would come down to preparation... and often the outdated mechanical skill of the individual.
If you were doing a overland trip then you'd take a multimeter, and various other spares.
For a Td5 - just take basic diagnostic software... most people nowdays take a lap top with them, so no extra effort needed to take diagnostic equipment.
The Td5 is a better engine than a 300Tdi in a number of ways - based on test bed and development work - but both engines will always have there good and bad points.
Engine choice for something like this would come down to individual choice - and skills/knowledge.
Going back to the original question...
In Defender spec a 200tdi has less power (different to a Disco) - but nothing that can't be fixed with a bit of tweaking.
Both engines have advantages and disadvantages... but out of the two I prefer the 300Tdi.
Ian
smo:
--- Quote from: "Porny" ---A td5 is still an engine, and thus works on exactly the same principles... but god forbid it's got an ECU :shock:
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Not only that, but the TD5 had a longer production run than either the 200 or 300Tdi (possibly even both combined!) so it cant really be that bad now can it!
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