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Wanderer:
I with you on this Mace but we have a higher driving position and can see over/around other vehicles so can spot kids earlier than most vehicles.
Personally I consider my driving habits have changed a lot since changing to the Discovery. I no longer hare around like a looney dashing from a to b and drive at a much more relaxed pace.

Someone pointed out that driving a series type vehicle means a lot more judging of the road and also conditions. I daren't tempt fate but I hope that I am never in collision with a child but most of the vehicles I have ever owned would do a lot of damage.

I suppose a matter for concern would be when people fit bull bars and feel safer themselves so take risks that they might not normally take due to bravado or whatever.

Ed

muddyweb:
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When I was a kid, we had road safety drummed into us all the time.  It strikes me that in more recent years, the driver or vehicle has become more increasingly "to blame", with less emphasis being put on keeping the kids roadwise.

The recent advert with the car that hits the child in the street.....  whilst dramatic, focussed entirely on the car travelling at 5mph above the speed limit, and whilst I don't approve of speeding in residential areas, there was no mention of why the child was crossing the road that close to a moving car, or why he wasn't using a crossing, or why he was crossing near parked cars.....

Any incident where people get hurt is of course bad, and we should as a society be working towards reducing the number of such incidents.  Personally I would like to see more attention paid to keeping pedestrians and vehicles away from each other, rather than imposing ever increasing restrictions on the construction of the vehicle.

Maybe we should have a Jaywalking offence, and start to make pedestrians take some responsibility ?

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Mace:
The accident I saw involved a 6 year old and a Ford Fiesta. The child made a bolt for it across the road next to a junction. The driver of the Fiesta had just pulled out of the junction so it was doing no more than 15mph when the girl ran out. Thump. There was nothing the driver could do, at all. It still takes time to stop from 15mph !!

No matter how careful we all are, accidents do happen. So I can quite clearly see why some circles want to ban all sticky out pointy bits. For me, I still believe in freedom of choice and being accountable for your actions, but that might not save a childs life !!

Wanderer:
It's the same old story.
Maybe first they should start to uphold the laws we have before attempting to turn honest people into criminals or turning us into the scourge of the earth.

I very rarely do the school run but Lizzy's school is three miles from home. Normally she is taken on the bus or tram. When I do the run there are always parents parked on the zig zags endangering their own childs lifes as well as other peoples children.
Absolutely nothing, nadda gets done about it. There's a main police station not 100yds from the school.

Mention it to any of the parents and you get loads of abuse or accused or being racist a la Ali G "Is it coz I is black" No! It's because you could be tha cause of a death of a child.

One woman ranted at me playing the race card. A friend's wife told her I was an off duty trafficl cop and trying to "help" her.  :lol:
She gives a nod and wave these days and doesn't park there.

Ed

Thrasher:
Today, on the way to work, I negotiated the usual right turn at a mini roundabout - and nearly rear ended a Corsa. She had gone round the roundabout and then slammed her brakes on about 3ft from the exit and decided to indicate right to park on the other side of the road...

Yes, there is a school. She could have parked further up, but no, 3 tons of Discovery behind her and she DID NOT SEE ME! This was re-enforced by the blast of the horn and flash of the "sun from the front". She jerked into motion and shifted - I and the 10 other cars behind me were most appreciative..until she stopped on the zig zag lines :(

She got a beep, more flashing and a window down, telling off from me :-)

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