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London to have 100m SUPER Mosque?

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Bulli:

--- Quote from: "Skibum346" ---Congrats to both the above posters for bringing a little sense to a rant...

Lemme see... we opose the percieved preaching of intolerance by.... not being tolerant of it.... Hmmmm... anyone notice a wee double standard in that?

As an Ex Catholic, Ex Protestant confirmed atheist... or is it agnostic... I hate the way religion is used on all sides as a stick to beat each other up with.

I wish you would all take a leaf from the book of a school I saw on BBC Midlands news tonight... a Jewish school where most of the kids are Moslem... Good "Enter deity of choice here"... if they can do it?!!!

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No mate, sorry i hope you arent having a pop at me??

I have stayed to facts rather than your rather nice if i stick my head in the sand arguament. I have clearly stated i have no opposition of anyone going about their lives how they want but i am strongly against people who preach intolerance (are you saying treating women as possessions is right?).

Now lets make a distinction here. The organisation is apolitical and at present has no political agenda. They do however preach ideas that are very contrary to the views i share, mainly on the subject of equality. Which should never become part of our British way of life.

If an organisation whether religious or political sprung up saying everyone else was wrong and at its extremes promotes suicide bombings (as several of the 7/7 terrorists attended mosques from this particular Islamic church) i hope that this would be opposed strongly, by everyone and not put into the i'm alright Jack catagory.

PS look up rant in the dictionary and dont use such statements as a blanket term, its rather rude.

Eeyore:
Sanity Check time,  8)

I don't think anyone here is having a go at anyone else, and certainly not at Bulli, here.

Personally, I always fear discussions starting concerning religion, politics, football, northern beer vs southern beer etc etc, because it's way too easy for folk to get offended. And then it turns sour and we spend oodles of time keeping the peace, and making posts not unlike this one. Then folk get upset because 'we're infringing 'freedom of speech'' and then they have a pop at us and we bite our tongues and more threads get locked and more people get upset and the Mods go off and have a group hug <breathe>.

Is anyone else following this so far?  :-s   :lol:

My postings on this matter have been a request (and sanity check), that if people have veiws on the subject, that they are expressed with respect and with consideration to the facts. Everyone has a right to an opinion and everybody else has the right to disagree with it. You even have the right to express it. The only caveat to that is as long as it's done with repsect, then we're cool.  8)

So, a request - keep it cool, folks. You know you want to!  :wink:

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore

waveydavey:
My feeling on this is that even if it is not built with public (our) money then the funding should includ all the extras involved.
It's all good saying that we don't pay the building but if we have to pay for road and transport networks to it and extra policing for the thousands of people for years the we foot the bill forever.

The churches are a good analagy; if you look at any rural map then the footpaths and byways we all love are all centered on the churches.

Rich_P:
So...  What about the situation where we are letting another building 'Out Shine' our famous landmarks and heritage?

The concept behind it is basically them building something bigger than what this country's main religion is.  As a result, it will typically (especially from the outside world I imagine) be viewed as we are Muslim and not Christian!  It's these conflictions that really do bother me.

Where has our national pride gone?  :roll:

Boggert:

--- Quote from: "bigant" ---am still pagan much easyer ^^
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he he he best answer to date!

I guess we'll have issues if a building no matter what it is signifies "Exclusion for another group" which a Mosque, church etc does.

To be honest i don't give a toss if they want to build one or not, its not something I have any interest in.

Could you do a lot with the money in the NHS or would it be lost in red tape and a large dark hole called “the government”???

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