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Please can I have a 4x4 permit

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gtomo2:
What he said ^. I am fed up of the blinked stance the band wagon is on. Why does someone give the press the "real truth" about 4x4 and carbon etc and then print it for us all to see. Its my life and i will do with it what i want i dont want some unknowen brussels so called emp telling me what i can and can not do.

barnhill4x4:

--- Quote from: "gtomo2" ---What he said ^. I am fed up of the blinked stance the band wagon is on. Why does someone give the press the "real truth" about 4x4 and carbon etc and then print it for us all to see. Its my life and i will do with it what i want i dont want some unknowen brussels so called emp telling me what i can and can not do.
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   I agree, something needs to be done to stop this biased reporting. How about we design a flyer, we all print out a couple and deliver them in the local area or even just the street you live in. I will do 200 at least.
   Imagine the coverage we could achieve, and would most likely get in the press.

Defender:
Perhaps we should be pushing for permits for all sports or performance cars. :lol:
Only people who need these type of vehicles should get permits.
After all, who needs a car that will do 100 odd MPH when we have a speedlimit of 70 MPH. Oh, and these types of vehicles are hardly fuel efficient. Even my fathers Mondeo drinks more fuel than my Defender, takes up more room on the road than my motor & probably has a top speed of over 130 MPH. :(bigangry):

Rant over.

Magnum335:

--- Quote from: "Range Rover Blues" ---Like Datals siad it's just utter c***. how can you discriminate against one type of vehicle, where do yo put the cut-off?

Subaruy imprezzas can drink way more fuel than my LSE, they can't tow a horsebox or carry 2 big dogs but they are not persecuted like this, it's rifdiculous.
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To be fair an impreza can tow horse boxes and they return about 38 mpg when driven gently. I know cos i have done it! The estate version will  easily accomodate two dogs, not huge ones though!.  
Drive anything like a mong and it will give you bad mpg (except the new golf r32!!)

Horness:
I thought the whole argument was towards being environmentally friendly.

Based on that - how can you have a permit based on drive or vehicle size?  Surely to be an honest environment saver it has to be based on fuel type, emissions and mpg.

This then means that ANY vehicle falling into a category whereby it's emissions (tested during an MOT) are too high, and it's average MPG are too low requires a permit, or "classification".  This would also mean as a vehicle gets older, it can move into this classification if it fails these tests.

I accept that a 28-30 average MPG from my TDi is not the best, and V8 owners get even less.  However many 4x4's do in fact have a higher MPG than the many sports hatches on the road, and probably have equal or less emissions.

It's a 4x4-tax nothing more.  It has nothing to do with the environment, and everything to do with money and narrow-minded opinions.

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