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Tax Exempt?
Fuddy as muck:
With these new proposals, would it lose points if you changed your 2a front end and dash for a series 3 :wink:
Darren
Rambler-Dents:
The body doesn't count because it is separate from the chassis, so you are okay there.
Mike
:D
S188:
I do know someone whos on the reciving end of this legislation and is trying to own a legal vehicle but is finding it dificult.
His problem is he has a series 2 that over the years has become radicly modified. He now wants to get it onto a Q plate as that means he'll be able to do what he likes to it without anyone moaning about specs and he is now bothered about its current tax exemption, he wouldnt mind paying tax on it as is so is not trying to dodge that. For some resion however the althoritys are not keen on him regegistering a 'ligitimate' vehicle as a Q.
Like many of these 88 coilers his was built in the 80s/90s when series motors and rangerovers were redally avalable as old cheep vehicles and building a SWB coiler was much cheeper than buying one of those new LR90's. Times have moved on and I must admit I find it why people still want to do such radical mods to still make series coilers when genuine coilers of vereous wheel bases are avalable for little money. If you think a 90 for 3 grand is still expencive then think about the total cost of a rebuild project - unless you have loads of vehicles cheep for breaking with good parts and lots of personal welding skills you wouldn't be able to make a radicly modified motor cheeper, and if you could you'd probubly have no problem fixing up a nackered 90 cheeply eather!
As for whats radicly modifield on a chassis that is a grey area I guess. Personly I'd say the basic structure shoudln't be changed including the main shape and suspension mounts. Changing an engine mount I wouldn't think was a big deal, nor would changine some outriggers for a different body though altering the rear crossmember could be argued as part of the main chassis structure (I mean like puting a landy crossmember on a rangie). Of course thats my personal view of how it should be which probubly means [!Expletive Deleted!]. A point though, if you have a zero tolarance polocy on ANY chassis mods then wouldn't that mean all modified coach built vehicles like cherry picker vans and tipper bodys built on a chassis cab should then be Q plated as specal body mounts have been fitted to the hamologated structure, meaning it still functions as intended in the normal stresses of life but is not identical to whats made by the manufacturer. These vehicles of course are still manufacturered by profesonal companys useing the original manufacurers vehicle spec (ie still says it on the V5C) without problem so I'd have thought they would still comply.
On another sidenote someone once told me, land rover 127's were aparently made by the factory on modified 110 chassis (done by LR Specal Vehicles) and say LR110 on the logbook. Is this true and if so what does that mean for them? How could you spot a factory made 127 to a home made streched 110? The 130's were made as 130s as a model in their own right.
Bob Ajob:
Carrying on the sidenote, seen something in a mag recently (either LRO or LRE) regarding the 127. The 127 was indeed made by Special vehicles from a 110, until at some point it got it's own chassis made. A 130 is still a 127 wheelbase, they just called it a 130 to bring in line a snazzier name to the Defender range.
Hijack over.
Rambler-Dents:
The counter-proposals to the DVLA from the involved car organizations are concerned with what actually constitutes a vehicle's identity and more to the point, when it actually loses that identity.
Putting aside the major components and the points system, the ridiculous nature of the regulations effectively say that unless the chassis is left original and unmodified then the vehicle is deemed radically altered and ceases to be worthy of its original identity. This is quite obviously complete and utter nonsense, so lots of people have their fingers crossed that the DVLA will make concessions for modified cars. If it doesn't listen, then it'll be responsible for wiping out a £2billion per year industry in this country, not to mention a way of life for a lot of people.
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