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its the end of the world!!!!
smo:
--- Quote from: "thermidorthelobster" ---It really gets right on my wick that we PAY the water companies to provide a service, then they tell US we can't use the water because there isn't enough. That's the whole damn point of PAYING them for the service! If they can't provide the service they exist solely to provide, then it's because they're either totally incompetent, or they prioritise their shareholders over their customers. Almost certainly the second.
Can you imagine if you went to the supermarket every couple of weeks, and they said sorry, we don't have any food at the moment, you'll have to make do without? Any supermarket which did that would quickly go out of business. But this is exactly what the water companies are doing, but NOTHING HAPPENS!
Well, the way to reverse this is for the customers to kick up enough stink so that the shareholders get jittery. For example, if everybody withheld their water bill money for a quarter, it would cause carnage.
I don't know why we put up with this rubbish; mainly because nobody's sure what to do, I suspect. Anybody want to help me start a revolution?
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Not entirely correct, you PAY for what you use, they ask and sometimes enforce restrictions to ensure there is enough water to go around. Its simple, if the water isnt there you cant use it.
Its not really like food, there is a huge excess of food in the world, badly distributed but thats a different point. If a shop runs low in simple terms they make more. You cant make more drinking water as has been said desalination is not an option as its slow, expensive and we simply dont have any plants to do it either!
You also pay for the water companies to take away your effluent, treat it, make it clean and deal with all the nasties involved in that - its not a simple process and imagine doing that for every household and commercial premises in the country?
do you have any concept of what it takes to get water from a bore hole or out of a resovoir and to a safe drinkable state at your tap, when you want it 24/7/365??
smo:
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--- Quote ---The Environment Agency points to the Bewl reservoir in Kent - the South East's biggest stretch of open water - which last year was only a third full, having been drained by the worst drought since the 1930s.
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Oh, so the weather cycle every hundred or so years means that we should be in fear? :roll:
Wasn't it proven on TV a few years back that there's a clear cycle that the weather has a complete cycle every hundred years or so?
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Quite possibly so, and also global warming is a natural event called inter glacial warming (or similar) and it happens in cycles of roughly 10,000 years if i remember correctly! Yes we are contributing to the natural cycle but its gonna happen with or without man and thats a proven fact!
thermidorthelobster:
Climate change is natural and happens for a variety of reasons, yes. There are many different cycles relating to oceanic currents, solar flares, the wobble of the earth's rotational axis, and a host of other things.
But at the moment we are having a totally unprecedented change in climate - the rate of change is far higher than anything that you would expect to happen naturally. Natural climate change tends to have limiting factors; but when you mess around with it on the scale we are, you can't rely on this.
Climate change may happen anyway, but not at the speed and scale it's happening now, and for very different reasons. You can sit back and say oh well, it's not our fault, but I don't think your descendents will look back fondly at you in 100 years or so.
thermidorthelobster:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---Not entirely correct, you PAY for what you use, they ask and sometimes enforce restrictions to ensure there is enough water to go around. Its simple, if the water isnt there you cant use it.
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But it's there, in abundance. The water companies are not investing money in capturing it, storing it and distributing it efficiently. We're not short of water in this country, but we're not using what we have at all efficiently.
--- Quote ---do you have any concept of what it takes to get water from a bore hole or out of a resovoir and to a safe drinkable state at your tap, when you want it 24/7/365??
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No. That's why I pay a lot of money in water bills to somebody who's supposed to do it for me!
smo:
--- Quote from: "thermidorthelobster" ---
--- Quote from: "smo" ---Not entirely correct, you PAY for what you use, they ask and sometimes enforce restrictions to ensure there is enough water to go around. Its simple, if the water isnt there you cant use it.
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But it's there, in abundance. The water companies are not investing money in capturing it, storing it and distributing it efficiently. We're not short of water in this country, but we're not using what we have at all efficiently.
--- Quote ---do you have any concept of what it takes to get water from a bore hole or out of a resovoir and to a safe drinkable state at your tap, when you want it 24/7/365??
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No. That's why I pay a lot of money in water bills to somebody who's supposed to do it for me!
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It isnt in abundance and i can assure you the water companies spend a HELL of a lot of money in keeping the water network running and expanding.
Water bills are not that expensive, if you find your rates are high, go on a water meter, we have been on one for years and its relatively cheap - if you still find it expensive then perhaps you should look at ways of cutting your usage. :)
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