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Lifting my disco
Timi:
--- Quote from: "Discotel" ---Frog.....I think you are going a bit OTT here mate, a 2" lift aint all that dramatic enough to really notice the change in castor angle, you are talking 2 or 3 degrees MAX....He will not even notice it. anything bigger like a 3" lift then YES I would agree and say go for the front and rear arms.
Given the state of the roads in this country his and our biggest worry is to avoid the pot holes and lorry rutts.
--- End quote ---
Hear hear! After the springs sag from all the extra weight of jackable cills winch bumpers roof racks the suspension usually settles ok.
bullfrog:
Well if ya buy decent springs rated for the gear you have they wont sag.
There's a big diffrence between "lifting" and "raising" the vehicle.
Springs and shocks "lift" the vehicle.
All the rest properly "raise" the vehicle
I dont push my products and dont mind where folks choose to buy their kit.
If you are gonna spend the money spend it wisely and once rather than buying gear and then realising you should have bought this and that etc. Easier to do the job properly once.
I probably lift 2/3 trucks a month sometimes with my kit and sometimes with others and 9/10 I fit castored arms.
You dont NEED them but its better if you do choose to use them as it returns steering geometry to factory .
It can upset front propshaft balance but this is also sortable.
It should be fine on +2".
Also worth mentioning that several insurance companys that I know of ask for in depth details of mods and can refer them to motor engineers, Who may question what has and has not been done.
Xtremeteam:
--- Quote from: "bullfrog" ---Well if ya buy decent springs rated for the gear you have they wont sag.
I dont push my products and dont mind where folks choose to buy their kit.
If you are gonna spend the money spend it wisely and once rather than buying gear and then realising you should have bought this and that etc. Easier to do the job properly once.
I probably lift 2/3 trucks a month sometimes with my kit and sometimes with others and 9/10 I fit castored arms.
You dont NEED them but its better if you do choose to use them as it returns steering geometry to factory .
It can upset front propshat balance but this is also sortable.
It should be fine on +2".
Also worth mentioning that several insurance companys that I know of ask for in depth details of mods and can refer them to motor engineers, Who may question what has and has not been done.
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Only problem i can forsee with the caster arms you do is they actually reduce the wheelbase thus amplifying any handling discrepancys,I'm also rather sceptical about heat bending cast iron, regardless of how carefully it is done it's still going to affect the integrity of it,
also
I can't help but wonder what insurance companies think about cast iron components being heated and bent beyond their original design.
ive lifted loads of 90's & 1 disco,the disco was "interesting" to drive afterwards which really coulda done with the arms but since it is a weekend toy they werent fitted,all the 90's mine included have been fine,
Also... you say you dont push your products,the first post you make is listing the prices you can do the lift for? Is that not a blatent plug? :roll:
bullfrog:
Well firstly having a degree in engineering and being a trained black smith I feel I understand the method and procedure of heating cast.
The arms reduce the wheelbase by 5mm so hardly a problem.
Also I listed prices as there are numerous company selling "lifts" so felt abliged to give an indication of prices if doing it properly .
I have also spoken to several motor engineers who work for insurance companies and to several insurance companies regarding my products and have been advised they would not come under question.
Hope that clears up any confusion.
The original post was I believe regarding a disco not a 90 so I believe my comments and advice were correct.
I did not post to start a "discussion" regarding my products, only to advise as to the correct way and cost involved in "raising" a vehicle properly.
chris.hunt22:
:shock: I didn't want to start a war!!! I haven't got the wedge to spend on it at the moment and am just looking for my best options, it isn't really something you can try and then take it back if it isn't right for you and without driving a lifted disco wheather with or without the castor correction arms I will never know wheather I have spent my money wisely. It might be something I can or can't live with as I do 'hoof' it about a bit on the road. It gives me something to ponder on anyway!! :lol:
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