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Words of advice...section 59

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Boggert:
Oh god why did I post this... LOL  :lol:

Ok a Rambler... :shock:  can do this however they would need to back it up with other evidence so like Llanigraham said he has had a continuing problem that hads been documented with the local force this could be done retrospectively as it is ASB (anti social behaviour)... Other than that it would need to be witnessed by a PCSO or Police officer. So some ranting rambler does not mean you will get a S59.

Just be careful when you are out there.

Lord Shagg-Pyle:

--- Quote from: "Boggert" ---Oh god why did I post this... LOL  :lol:

Ok a Rambler... :shock:  can do this however they would need to back it up with other evidence so like Llanigraham said he has had a continuing problem that hads been documented with the local force this could be done retrospectively as it is ASB (anti social behaviour)... Other than that it would need to be witnessed by a PCSO or Police officer. So some ranting rambler does not mean you will get a S59.

Just be careful when you are out there.
--- End quote ---



As you sow, so shall ye reap, Boggert me old matey! :D

I had a similar issue with the Hunting with Dogs Farce, sorry, Act. I was expected to take the words of a group of Hunt Sabs as gospel after the Act came into farce, sorry there I go again, force, when the week before we had been nabbing them for aggravated trespass and threatening behaviour. Would they be reliable witnesses?
It's all confusing, and I am glad now that I have decided to 'drive a desk' for a few years.

Boggert:

--- Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle" ---
--- Quote from: "Boggert" ---Oh god why did I post this... LOL  :lol:

Ok a Rambler... :shock:  can do this however they would need to back it up with other evidence so like Llanigraham said he has had a continuing problem that hads been documented with the local force this could be done retrospectively as it is ASB (anti social behaviour)... Other than that it would need to be witnessed by a PCSO or Police officer. So some ranting rambler does not mean you will get a S59.

Just be careful when you are out there.
--- End quote ---



As you sow, so shall ye reap, Boggert me old matey! :D

I had a similar issue with the Hunting with Dogs Farce, sorry, Act. I was expected to take the words of a group of Hunt Sabs as gospel after the Act came into farce, sorry there I go again, force, when the week before we had been nabbing them for aggravated trespass and threatening behaviour. Would they be reliable witnesses?
It's all confusing, and I am glad now that I have decided to 'drive a desk' for a few years.
--- End quote ---


LOL I know how you feel, they cause more trouble than the hunts... which are impossible to police unless you have a fleet of 4x4's and even then it would be hard.
The only good thing is the fines for Hare Coursing are harder, plus we use the Section 59 to great affect, then the diesel thefts and other rural crimes seem to drop as well.  :lol: Hmmmm I wonder why!  :lol:

wildsmith:
If I'm driving along what I believe is still a carriageway without extinguished rights and a Police Officer issues me with a fixed penalty notice, what do I have to do to get my day in court? Am I being cautioned and should refuse to accept the caution, or do I get something in the post and can tick the 'I want my day in court' box? (assume I already had a s56 warning)

Am I under any obligation to assist the officer in the removal of my vehicle should that prove to be the route they take? Curious because the size of low loader needed to recover my vehicle may not fit (especially with a vehicle on it) down a lot of the country roads leading to/from the places this might happen.

It seems like this legislation gives officers useful powers for dealing with genuinely anti-social/dangerous behaviour but it's open to serious misuse.

Best regards,
Jon.

jalopy joe:
The police force of this free democracy mis-using their powers against law abiding citizens, surely not :roll:  :roll:

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