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Words of advice...section 59
drmike:
Presumably at the time you could have taken it up with the local inspector or whatever it is because I'm sure we were assured that a section 59 order would have to go through channels to be approved? Or am I getting muddled?
Mike
Boggert:
--- Quote from: "Llanigraham" ---Boggert
So a couple of the little Peugot owning scrotts around here think it is fun to wheel spin up and down our street, showing off to their mates in the Kebab Shop.
Being as the nearest copper is normally 15 miles away from here, when I call it in to Police Control 90 miles away,quoting the reg no, can I report it as a Section 59 violation as it is causing me "distress, alarm or annoyance"?
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In a word YES! :lol: and when you do make sure you mention Section 59 causung Distress alarm and annoyance when you call it in! It will get their attention then a Police officer or community officer can issue a section 59 notice retrospectively once they have a statement from you.
In my area we has a real issue with this so put an operation together, now all the boy and girl racers have a 59 and some have had their cars removed from them! it costs £117 to get it back next day. After word got around they slowed down. :lol:
Boggert:
--- Quote from: "Ja1983" ---I`ve been served with a section 59 in Feb last year.. the reason:
my phone rang, so like a responsible person i pulled into a layby. within a few seconds, the police landrover that had just passed screeched in behind me, out jumped a snotty CSO, and insisted that i cannot enter the land known as mount skip (it does get used by 4x4`s and bikes, but too tight and steep for a pickup) and that i was been served with a notice whereby if i am caught doing anything as stupid in the near future i will have my vehicle crushed... i managed to get a word in edgeways, and simmered the level of conversation down to a slightly more even level, I asked if she knew where i could use my 4x4 lawfully, seen as tho the subject had been raised.. i am still waiting for the letter she promised she would send me :evil:
yes, the layby was the entrance to this area (no barriers, warning signs, or anything to suggest it was anything other than for example a picnic spot or as i had deemed it a safe and reasonable place to answer a phonecall) and yes i was in a 4x4 however, it seems the young lady was keen to make an impression, and experience tells me not to argue with a copper.. but i was mad!
what are the long term implecations of this?
if me and the truck end up somewhere we shouldnt be ...through no intent or purpose other than shear bad luck... will i have to walk home? this seems ridiculous!
..looking forward to a reply!
[PS, SWMBO is looking to join the force soon, so I`m not a cop hater] :wink: )
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drmike:
As a matter of interest what should you do if a section 59 is issued in what seems unreasonable circumstances? I assume that you can take it up with a senior officer - what would the procedure be?
Is a Section 59 some form of caution or fixed penalty? Ie something you have to agree to in order to avoid court procedings.
Mike
Boggert:
I would speak to a solicitor and take it up with their inspector... But before you do make sure you were in the right.
There is no caution or FPN with the section 59 its simply a warning marker that sits on the vehicle and driver for one year.
Also like Lord Shagg-Pyle said don't gob off or you might get nicked for a public order offence! :shock: The last guy that told me "I pay your wages only got 1p refund from me" :lol:
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