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Yet another lifting question
SnakeLogic:
Sorry for the trouble, but with all the information available on Mud Club, I've become a bit confused (not terribly difficult to do, as I'm a bit dim).
If I do a 2" lift by simply adding springs, am I going to to need all the extra bits that people who do a 3" need? (corrected castor radius arms, prop-shaft, offset bushings, etc)
If I DON'T do these additional upgrades, am I looking at problems? Serious ones? My dealer here in Japan has done the 2" spring lift several times, but I'm the FIRST person (of his clients) who has wanted to actually take his Disco offroad. Mostly, people here seem to lift the Disco as a fashion statement, and to each his own, I suppose. I'm just trying to make room for bigger tyres to get my axles another inch or so off the ground.
Range Rover Blues:
With a 2" lift you will rotate the front axle by 3 degress, this is by coincidence the correct castor setting for the front end, plus or minus 1.
So you will remove all castor from your car and possibly make it negative castor depending on what you had to start with.
This is what causes all the discussion. To get it driving like it does now, you want castor correction. You don't need cranked rear arms but they are nice to have, they are often dtronger too.
You need longe dampers or you are wasting your money, longer dampers on stock springs is better than stock dampers on big springs. Many folks stick with the former to great effect.
You will want longer brake hoses for safety. What else do we usually mention? can't remember, the beer monster has got me :roll:
Sheddy:
I'll concurr with the victim of the beer monster! :)
Beer, getting ugly birds laid since 324ad. You gotta love the stuff.
Anyway, back on track. For a 2" lift you don't necessarily need to change anything other than the springs, shocks and brake lines. I would add to the B.M> victims comments that I found that by using uprated springs I get a nicer ride in my Disco. If you are fitting things like winches, heavy duty bumpers, rock/tree sliders etc. then bear in mind the additional weight your adding to the vehicle, you may need to have the springs uprated just to cope with the weight.
Other mods?
Corrected radius arms and trailing arms will make the vehicle drive nicer after the lift and allow it to articulate easier off road.
Ploybushes .... to be honest, I'm starting to question the validity of this modification. I've tried various ones by different manufacturers and they all seem to fail a lot quicker than the Landrover bushes.
Cardan propshafts (see.. I did take notice of the chap who pointed out that they're not double cardan!) aren't necessay on a 2" lift, neither are open yoke propshafts. Standard ones are fine.
if I think of any more I'll carry this on, but I've got to go and stop my 5 year old from bashing his little brother with drum-sticks.
Skibum346:
--- Quote from: "Sheddy" ---I've got to go and stop my 5 year old from bashing his little brother with drum-sticks.
--- End quote ---
Chicken or turkey...?
:lol: :lol:
SnakeLogic:
While I'd LIKE to get all the extras, I think I'll end up with just springs for starters. My firstborn is due in February, and I've got to start being sensible with my money.
While I'm on it, would it be worthwhile to have dislocation cones installed if I'm not removing the anti-sway bar? My (admittedly limited) understanding is that keeping the anti-sways will limit my articulation anyway, and for the amount of on-road vs. off-road driving I do, and given that half of my turns are 90 degrees, I'd rather not lose them. Back to the dislocation cones. As long as I'm getting the uprated springs installed anyway, the labor (err, sorry, labour) charges will be negligible. So, worth it?
I was going to but a snorkel and extended breathers on first (the play area is a small island in the middle of a river (the Kiso-gawa, if anybody cares), but I think wading plugs will suffice for now. I got pulled of the mud today, and I have to have new tyres.
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