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Winches Again
rollazuki:
for my 2 cents worth, I reccon that theres a few decent winches out there. From my own personal experience(warn 8274 I wish Id never sold, Superwinch, and Tmax Outback) Id say they can all fail, and will all fail if neglected.
My 8274 could have done with a strip and service, Never pulled the motor down though, so no idea of condition inside.
My Superwinch enjoyed a gearbox strip now and again, and the drum bearings(yeah right) were always full of mud etc. Surprisingly, the motor was bloody well sealed!
My tmax, definitely the prettiest winch among em, has suffered from water ingress into gearbox and motor. It pulls damned well when it pulls, but is dissapointing due to lack of sealing.
Id say whatever you buy, if you immerse it in mud and water, then you'll have grief on a warranty claim, but above all, Id strip and rebuild any new winch, fully grease everything, seal the motor end caps, silicon everything in sight. At least then you are giving the winch every chance of surviving the life we put them through.
Think about it this way, how much time and effort do we spend on trying to water proof our ignition systems, on engines that in most cases would cost less to replace than the price of our new winch? I recon with a little TLC most winches can be good.
Rolla
Mudlark:
--- Quote from: "Bulli" ---sorry Mudlark but were you taking part? How did the shogun do?
people break things period, if you are actually DOING the event and not just watching..... like i said b4 way better for the wife shopping but not on the lanes.
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Yes I do take part in trials - only started this year though and the shogun has brought back 3 trophies of the 4 trials I've done so...............
However I am aware that my LWB Shogun is not the ideal for sections set up to be difficult for SWB vehicles and so I'm thinking about building something that fits in.
Won't be Land-Rover based though :wink:
Bulli:
cool 8) , look forward to seeing the results of your efforts.
well done on getting the trophies, had a look round your site plenty of fun stuff on your piccies section. Come along to the scorpion round thats near you next year... its an eye opener!
still doesnt alter the fact that competitors use warn out of preference and have to fork out their own cash to buy em...no ones on freebies in this country.... like ive said they work... and noone is stupid enough to put 4tonnes through their chassis without being in dire trouble...be the shogun would become 2 shoguns if you tried it!
Mudlark:
--- Quote from: "Bulli" ---cool 8) , look forward to seeing the results of your efforts.
well done on getting the trophies, had a look round your site plenty of fun stuff on your piccies section. Come along to the scorpion round thats near you next year... its an eye opener!
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I want to get to all of them and not just to watch (bad enough just having to watch the Southwest Shootout this year) Determined to put the
humble Shogun/Paj in an enviable position :wink:
--- Quote from: "Bulli" ---
and noone is stupid enough to put 4tonnes through their chassis without being in dire trouble...be the shogun would become 2 shoguns if you tried it!
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Never thought of it like that but I know what you mean. I think the biggest let down of any electric winch would be it's electrics. There should be no excuse for mechanical failure.
When I've thought about winches I've always thought about fitting a mechanical one - power speed and endurance are all there, but it seems like looking for rocking horse sh*t.
Electric winches really come into their own when you have to do a rolled recovery so the necessity for a named winch is not so much required.
I'm always open to suggestions though :lol: :lol: (except for buying a Land-Rover of course)
Bulli:
the problem i forsee with mechanical winches is that the may be great for moving logs or indeed recovering someone else but if you are recovering yourself you often cannot drive your wheels.
I dont know of one where you can but dont mind being corrected if im wrong there. If you are doing self recovery i find that driving the wheels really does help reduce the strain on the winch. Without drive it would be much easier to stall the winch...and what if your motor isnt working...ie youve drowned it ....your up chocolate creek without a popsicle stick then.
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