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Bulli:
i have a feeling that is more to do with its military heritage, which of course Mitsubishi also have. Including making military 4x4 prototype way back in 1937...errr and kamakazi dive bombers!! :shock:
Have fun in your divine wind!
Sheddy:
The offer to accompany Mudlark on a novice challenge didn't involve the Disco. As you rightly state, its far from standard. The offer was to accompany him using a 110 with a set of A/T tyres on. It would seem that Mudlark see's the need to fit a winch and take advantage of the locking rear diff .... if he turns up. I know what a standard 110 can do, I know where I can drive one and just how far it will go. I have no doubt that the Paj will be put to shame. I've had a Paj and wouldn't have a second one unless it was for destruction testing. The Paj owners seem to have a lot to learn about the differences in capabilities between standard Landrovers and Mitsi's of the same age.
Why do Paj's have a locking rear diff as standard? Because they need them.
--- Quote from: "redneck" ---Although I wasn't going to get involved in this debate I have to leap to Mudlarks defence slightly on this one.
--- Quote from: "Sheddy" ---Did a Scorpion Challenge event in mine this year. Drove it home too. So after all the trolling and gobbing off, is Mudlark saying that he doubts the Paj's ability to complete a novice event intact?
Here's the Disco just coming in to land! (picture courtesy of www.scorpionracing.co.uk )
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The vehicle pictured above is hardly what you would call a novice/standard vehicle. Surely a more balanced argument would be can a standard Shogun/Pajero go everywhere a standard LR can go :?: and from what i've seen the answer would be yes. ergo a Shogun or Pajero modified to the same standard of a modified LR would also be equally up to the job. The big advantage of LR over jap is the availability of off the shelf bits to modify them in this country (how many off road modified Shogun/Pajeros have you seen lately :?: ) which will always give the impression that LR's are a more capable off road tool.
Personally I picked my SWB Pajero because it was much cheaper than a 90 (SWB, Diesel, £1000 all in with some secondhand All Terrains :shock:) and bang for bucks i can have just as much fun in it :wink: i'm not actually bias either way, I trial a Suzuki SJ simply because I don't care if it gets a few dents (although I have trialed the Pajero on occasions :twisted: ) But would happily own a LR if one came my way, I very nearly bought a Disco as my work vehicle but it didn't have quite enough length in the back for what i wanted (hence the Delica :wink: )
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Range Rover Blues:
I'd still rather push a Land Rover than drive a bitsamissing :D
Manicminer:
If it wasn't for jap motors, then Land Rover would still be building leaf sprung SIII :wink:
Jap motors have kept Land Rover on their toes ensuring they keep developing into what they are now.
The designers of my Isuzu were told to build a vehicle that would equal a Range Rover classic V8. It does that very well with a nice 3.1L diesel engine that will out pull a standard V8 of that era.
The only downfall of my vehicle is that it is a bit low, but with the right modifications would equal a modifieded disco.
I have seen a Defender TD5 pulling a 14' Ivor Williams trailer with 3.5 tonnes on the back of it stuck on a gravel road because it had the front wheel wanting to lift up into the air. Unhiched the trailer off the back of the Defender and hooked the Isuzu to it and it pulled the trailer in 2WD, that's why we have a rear limited slip diff. I still had 4WD if I wanted it.
As long as the bodywork doesn't touch the ground then it keeps on going :D
Xtremeteam:
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Don't worry when I get out there and thrash them they'll have a bit more respect for the humble Shoggie - I doubt if they'll see any more sense though
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Sounds fair enough to me, name the time and the place and we'll see if we can get Muddyweb, Eeyore, Redline and a couple of others down.. you can play follow my leader :)
There's nothing wrong with the Paj, other than it's owners seem to take such an overly defensive attitude, do you all have some chronic inferiority complex or something ?
honestly, if they were that bad, why would Thrasher have bought one for his missus ?
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Im in 8) Wales again?
I feel like driving a slope :lol: :lol:
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