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Spot lights. Which ones to go for? Advice please.
matthew:
We've got Cibie super oscars on the road rally car, but i've heard good things about Lightforce. As already said Daylighters and PIAA are also worth a look.
The picture above just demonstrates why you should avoid Hella.
As you probably don't have to worry about the MSA or the Blur Book it might be worth thinking about HID lamps, just 2 of instead of 4 though on cost grounds.
dreadnought110:
--- Quote from: "matthew" ---We've got Cibie super oscars on the road rally car, but i've heard good things about Lightforce. As already said Daylighters and PIAA are also worth a look.
The picture above just demonstrates why you should avoid Hella.
As you probably don't have to worry about the MSA or the Blur Book it might be worth thinking about HID lamps, just 2 of instead of 4 though on cost grounds.
--- End quote ---
Thanks Buddy the still above is from a video just going over the brow of a hill and if you think hella are such rubbish why did quite a few rally teams use hella?? all i was saying is i like hella i couldn't afford lightforce i used to have cibie pencil beams and they where brilliant but they started to rust on the reflector and the body!! the hella's have outlasted them!! :? :? So why are you so against them?? :?
Henry Webster:
Don't think there's much wrong with Hellas, but you need to compare like with like.
Its worth checking out what the road rallying boys and girls are using, because with all events taking place overnight they really need to know where they are going.
I haven't done a road event for a few years, but the last time I was out I used a 15-20yr old set of KC Daylighters and they were fantastic. I've got a set of Hellas (I think 2000's) on the rally Discovery, but they are not as impressive, but as I say they are not exactly like for like!
Cibie Oscars and Super Oscars are tough (have seen many accidents where virtually only the spots have survived intact.), but they are big units. Cibie Turinis are equally impressive, but with plastic instead of metal bodies (so no rust). PIAA do a great range, but I have little personal experience.
Hope this helps (have you noticed I like KCs! and the prices in PUX's link look very good.)
matthew:
--- Quote from: "dreadnought110" ---
--- Quote from: "matthew" ---We've got Cibie super oscars on the road rally car, but i've heard good things about Lightforce. As already said Daylighters and PIAA are also worth a look.
The picture above just demonstrates why you should avoid Hella.
As you probably don't have to worry about the MSA or the Blur Book it might be worth thinking about HID lamps, just 2 of instead of 4 though on cost grounds.
--- End quote ---
Thanks Buddy the still above is from a video just going over the brow of a hill and if you think hella are such rubbish why did quite a few rally teams use hella?? all i was saying is i like hella i couldn't afford lightforce i used to have cibie pencil beams and they where brilliant but they started to rust on the reflector and the body!! the hella's have outlasted them!! :? :? So why are you so against them?? :?
--- End quote ---
Ok, it was late when I wrote that and I probably should explain a bit more.
For the current road rally driver's first event earlier this year he'd put a new pair of Hella 2000s on the car, they were ok but not stunning. Anyway we had a minor off and smashed one of them, for the second event they'd been swapped for some second hand super oscars and the difference was massive even with less than perfect reflectors. These have survived a second minor off and an impact with a sheep.
I've added a couple of notes to your picture, basically they don't look to be throwing the light far enough. 50m or so (which is what it looks like) might be ok laning but is getting marginal even at Land-Rover speeds on the road.
Hope that explains a bit more.
matthew:
Oops, meant to add to previous post
http://www.britishrally.co.uk/forum/ would be a good place to search for opinions on lights, though a lot of the older threads were lost in a recent move.
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