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Building a 90 from scratch
Porny:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---Thats pretty much what i'm after Ian, obviously on the same wavelength.
Ideally i'd like to do most of it myself, and there is no reason why i shouldnt really. I've got a degree in engineering and am pretty mechanically minded so it would be a learning curve but what better way to do it!
I'd like to keep the cost down to approx 10K (less if poss!!!), this is so that i dont run up any debt after selling my CSW and clearing my outstanding loan.
Spec wise like you say:
Galv chassis (unless using a donor one)
TD5 engine & running gear (with HD halfshafts etc)
Lockers front and rear
Roll cage
Truck body
35's
Usual extras....
If that could be done for 10K then fantastic, however i fear not with all new bits which means Q plate which i dont like the idea of, so a rolled/crashed donor TD5 would be ideal then keep its ID and work from there building it up.
There is a chappy selling a whapping 5.7l (i think) V8 and Portals on devon4x4 which is tempting but probably overkill me!
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10k interesting....
I wouldn't really want a Q plate, but buying a latter damaged 90 isn't that cheap, and you've always got the problem of it being on VCar, so will always show up as an insurance write off.
I'd personally buy an old snotter, like a B/C/D reg and break it for bits...
Then scrap the chassis and buy a brand new in its place (must be original spec and brand new - with receipt)
So basically you’re left with a few bits and pieces and a VIN plate and thus ID.
Following the guide lines on the DVLA website, to keep the original ID of vehicle:
--- Quote --- order to retain the original registration mark:
cars and car-derived vans must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).
And two other major components from the original vehicle – ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.
If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is used, the vehicle must pass a an enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA) or single vehicle approval (SVA) test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.
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So if you have a brand new 90" chassis, which is still coil sprung (so keep the original type suspension) and still has the same steering box set up then you can keep the original ID of the vehicle regardless of what other components are used.
This means the engine could be replaced with a Td5, the gearbox replaced with a R380 and you can even run Td5 axles. Then body work wise, it doesn't really matter what you use.
IMHO this is a much easier route than trying to register a new build (which would be classed as a kit car, so might have insurance complications) or rebuilding a crashed Land Rover that is recorded as being an insurance write off.
Older Land Rovers are also cheaper to insure, esp. if they are modified.
Ian
smo:
So Ian - do you think its possible on 10k?
PUX - Looks nice doesnt it :D
Porny:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---So Ian - do you think its possible on 10k?
PUX - Looks nice doesnt it :D
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If your doing the work yourself, and you look out for bargains then you should be able to.
What you planning on doing then?? Rebuilding and older 90 or building one from scratch and having it on a Q plate or trying to register it as a new build... as this will affect the cost!!
Ian
PUX:
its tastey aint it smo............. when i was looking i was just looking for a run of the mill 300tdi truck cab maybe a little untidy as long as the chassi rear cross memeber and bulk head were ok that was going to be my starting point and then go for i think porny said it something like the weekender kit and build from there as at the end of the day i was not sure if the challenge scene was going to work for me i reakon all in all getting a truck semi ready for the novice stage was going to set me back about 7-8grand :D
CJ:
PUX, that truck sweet mate... any idea if he sold it in the end?
You got any further with your ideas smo... im thinking of going down the same route :twisted:
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