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Is Billing DEAD?

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defenderdan:

--- Quote from: "winchman" ---I would think the lack of traders is down to the massive rent, dont forget a trader has to transport his stock, staff, feed and accomodate them all, it costs a fortune and theres a good risk of rain keeping the buyers away.
We might have a trader on here who can tell us the cost of attendance ?
One of my mates wont go due to all the above.
Its interesting the change of venue bit, I attend the 1000 engine rally and I believe the same happened here, rent too much so moved to another stately home.
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That was sort of my point about too many shows. If there was only one they would all be there. Most traders attended at least one of the shows.

bullfrog:
I enquired and a nomal 4x4 stand was £400 .
Very strict on what and when and how.
Would think that put a fair few off.

winchman:
The problem with most shows is they are ran for massive profit.
I try to support the smaller shows like the link below, the organisers pay next years fees for the site etc out of the profit then the rest is given to local charaties, it started out very small but is now excellent and the best bit is every one is made welcome no matter what they drive
http://www.westlancsmg.co.uk/
Look at Festival of Transport.

The £5000 stand, you would have to sell near £15000 worth of stuff, so these must be written off by the big boys as promotions.
Even the £400 stand would need sales of £1200 just to cover the fee, then staff, food , travel, accomodation etc.
I personally dont feel there are enough shows, the down turn in stands is the rent etc, and more can be purchased form home via the web, but in the old days we went to an annual show and trudged around looking for the elusive bit.
I did a few autojumbles last year and at one every one packed up at dinner as hardly any punters came, it was a big venue with national advertising, after all the expence we made £50 each.
I am going to the Above with the last of my Jumble on Sunday so I wil let you know how it goes.

V8MoneyPit:
I can fully sympathise with the traders.

Not 4x4, but we used to do the larger national Morris Minor shows. Even when camping, to keep costs down, we would have to take in excess of £3k over the weekend just to break even. And I haven't even allowed for any value of my own time in that. Now, that figure can usually be achieved without too much trouble, but you have to ask whether it's worth loosing your time off work for a small amount of profit.

You have costs of:
Stand space
Marquee hire
Transport
Staff/hired help
Food
Accomodation

What with customers expecting 'deals' at shows and other traders literally walking around noting competitors pricing and then going back to slash their own prices, we decided it just wasn't worth the aggro. We haven't been to a large show for a few years now.

barny:

--- Quote ---is billing dead ?
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..... bloody hope not i'm going there on sat for some wet n' wild 4x4 fun !

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