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The FAMOUS tyre Report........
scorpio:
Must admit I had a look at there stand at Malvern and noticed certain tyres had yellow chalk marks all over them where the tread and casing seemed to be parting company, not a good thing for a tyre that had never been on the road.
Bulli:
it seems strange that tyres are available without the latest codings. Im sure pirelli, bridgestone et al would remove yres from sale as a matter of course when they no longer meet the current legislation.
Jas278:
It amazes me that according to the ECE these tyres that I purchased are not in accordance with the regulations governing tyres ,yet everybody else is at fault or wrong...........I wish somebody would explain why these tyres comply to Ece regs when a man who is a specialist in this field says the opposite....As for Bronco what message are they sending out using bully boy tactics...........its a public forum of which they are a member ,I wish they would use this forum ,(or send me a letter ) explaing there side of events.........and as to how my tyres met ECE 108/109 tyre regs..........
dew1911:
--- Quote from: "muddyweb" ---I have been contacted by Bronco 4x4 and advised that they have been in touch with their solicitors to consider legal action regarding the publication of this report.
I would ask that you bear this in mind when posting any further comments on this subject.
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Surley as long as the post is factual and contains no slander then they don't have a tire to stand on...
EDIT: Sorry, terrible pun!
fisha:
To me, the original post is an expressed opinion and not necessarily directing others to change their opinion. There is a bit of a difference to me as to what makes something liable or not.
To me, you should be allowed to say: " I dont like this product, or i have had a bad experience with .... "
but openly saying "I dont like this product and so none of you should buy it " is a different matter.
I used to have a set of Bronco tyres and i have to admit that they behaved and performed very well,however, I'm not surprised that this issue is still appearing with the treads. Its something i have read about for many years. I have my own opinions on why it happens, but there you go.
Now, having a little look round on the web, there are some points to consider regarding that report.
Here is a copy and paste from a page here
A serach round google for similar types of information shows that most county councils repeat the same information. According to most of the pages i've read, tyres are supposed to display a proper E mark ECE108 /109 type mark, but for retreads, most of the information says that the BS approval mark is correct / appropriate. . . . however, that the approval mark should be a suffixed one. So i would personally be of the opinion that "BS AU 144" on a tyre would not comply to the statements made below, but "BS AU 144e " would.
Jas, the only thought i have is that you should seek cliarification on the exact applicable standards through your local trading standards authority.
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Selling Safe Part-worn Tyres
The Motor Vehicle Tyres (Safety) Regulations 1994, as amended, set out minimum safety standards for the supply of part-worn tyres. To comply, it is important that you and your staff are fully aware of these Regulations.
Under the Regulations, it is illegal to supply any part-worn tyre that is capable of being fitted to a motor vehicle or trailer unless the following conditions are met:
Marking
Part-worn tyres (except retreads) should have an EC approval mark (for example E11) and a speed and load capacity index (for example 76 S), moulded into the side wall at the time of manufacture.
In addition, all types of part-worn tyres must be marked 'PART-WORN' in upper case letters at least 4mm high.
This wording must be permanently and legibly applied to the tyre, otherwise than by hot- branding or cutting into the tyre and adjacent to every approval mark.
Rubber labels can be cold-vulcanised to the tyre and are available from companies that advertise in the trade press.
Condition
Part-worn tyres, whether deflated, or inflated to the highest operating pressure at which they are designed to operate, must not have:
* any cut over 25mm or 10% of the section width of the tyre, whichever is the greater, on the outside of the tyre, deep enough to reach the ply or cord;
* any internal or external lump, bulge or tear caused by separation or partial failure of its structure;
* any ply or cord exposed internally or externally;
* any penetration damage that has not been repaired.
In addition, the grooves of the original tread pattern of the tyre must be at least 2mm deep across the full breadth of the tread and around the entire outer circumference of the tyre.
Part worn retreaded tyres
Part-worn tyres that have been retreaded must have:
* BS AU 144b, 144c, 144d, or 144e markings on the side wall, or
* an ECE approval mark, or
* a permanent mark to identify the original model and manufacturer, the word 'RETREAD' moulded onto or into its sidewall (in upper case letters at least 4mm high), and further markings in accordance with ECE rules. You may need to seek further advice as to which rules apply.
The indication 'PART WORN' must also appear next to the BS or ECE approval mark, or next to the word 'RETREAD'.
For tyres marked BS AU 144e, a speed category symbol and load capacity marking should be present.
A tyre has to comply with all the requirements detailed above whether or not it is fitted to a rim.
We recommend that a thorough inspection of the tyre must be made before fitting to the rim, and after fitting and inflating the tyre to the highest operating pressure. Tyres which are sold unfitted will need to be inspected with particular care, as it is still an offence to supply tyres with the defects listed above which become detectable when the tyre is inflated. Inflation and inspection is recommended.
Repaired tyres
If a tyre has been repaired, it must have been properly repaired.
Any tyre that has been repaired should be inspected very carefully. Repairs need to comply with BS AU 159f, 1997 - Repairs to Tyres on the Public Highway. If you are not competent to judge a repair, we suggest the tyre is disposed of.
Tyres in storage
It is also illegal to have unsafe tyres in possession for sale, so you will need to be clear what is and what is not for sale. If you have tyres in storage, but not intended for sale, they should be clearly marked as such.
Penalties
Conviction could render you liable to a penalty of six months imprisonment, a fine of up to �5,000 or both.
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This leaflet is not an authoritative interpretation of the law and is intended only for guidance. For further information, please contact your local Trading Standards Service.
Last reviewed/updated: April 2006
© 2006 itsa Ltd on behalf of the Trading Standards Institute.
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