Springs

[barny]

Hi, i had police spec springs on a classic and for cheapness i thought they were really good. Obviously the old stuff was a bit tired as it lifted it slightly.

Anyway, is there an equivalent way of doing the same on a 300tdi ? It will mainly be used as a tow car/dog carrier so i dont want a big lift but something capable of coping with extra weight.

remeber the words "cheapness" ! So if its a case of using springs from xxx vehicle then thats fine.

thanks B

[Colin 009]

You have a pm.

[Cheggs]

I keep hearing about these police springs is there a specific part no. as they don'ty appear to be advertised anywhere, thanks.

[Jake]

Send a PM muddyweb
 

[barny]

Send a PM muddyweb
 

eh ? :oops:

[Jake]

I see the problem
Try sending a PM to muddyweb.
He works for a rather well known 4x4 parts supplier.
He could get you the part numbers you require.
 :D

[Xtremeteam]

the colour your after is red/white,dont have the Nos to hand but any good landy parts supplier should be able to sort you out

[bobtail4x4]

I think I have a set in the back of the garage, yours for £30?

[barny]

I keep hearing about these police springs is there a specific part no. as they don'ty appear to be advertised anywhere, thanks.

Mine where from either paddocks or craddocks - i use both !

[Cheggs]

I Take Police spec springs are Heavy duty ones?

[barny]

I Take Police spec springs are Heavy duty ones?

Yeah, they told me that thyere about 25-30lbs " stiffer. There on the craddocks ad in LRO mag - £55

[landyman Ash]

So new disco then?  Nick told me you had a nice little 300

Best way mate, lovely trucks  

Got my police springs from Paddocks for my old classic.  Will be same fro 300 disco

[Xtremeteam]

I Take Police spec springs are Heavy duty ones?

Yeah, they told me that thyere about 25-30lbs " stiffer. There on the craddocks ad in LRO mag - £55

yeh
thats 2 red/whites & 2 greens (standard)

i can supply 4 red/whites for approx £80 + P&P

[barny]

Bare in mind this is a discovery 300tdi i'm talking about, not sire if i made that clear from the off  :oops:

[landyman Ash]

Bare in mind this is a discovery 300tdi i'm talking about, not sire if i made that clear from the off  :oops:

No you made it clear.  Those springs will be fine  

[barny]

Bare in mind this is a discovery 300tdi i'm talking about, not sire if i made that clear from the off  :oops:

No you made it clear.  Those springs will be fine  

Interesting, thanks dude !  8)

[Range Rover Blues]

But the actual police spec is for a V8, so HD on the rear, red/white and HD on the front or standard TDi springs.

Thing is, that's based on a RRC, with self-leveler.  Discos have stronger springs and a higher MAM.

[barny]

MAM ...?  :oops:

[Cheggs]

So for a Disco 200/300 4 red/whites would be Ideal to give a Little lift, and a little less roll, or am I misunderstanding this? :?

[Range Rover Blues]

Max Allowable Mass or gross vehicle weight.  I think red/whites may not be that much heavier than stock Disco springs.  I don't know about using them on the front at all, I'd have to look for some data.

[dave_2A_2.25Turbo]

On this subject....

Can 200tdi (Disco) shocks & springs be replaced by '90'ones?  Not too bothered about lift at the moment, but I'd like to lose a bit of the sag/roll under load

[Xtremeteam]

On this subject....

Can 200tdi (Disco) shocks & springs be replaced by '90'ones?  Not too bothered about lift at the moment, but I'd like to lose a bit of the sag/roll under load

in 1 word yes

[bullfrog]

In a word NO as the disco is considerably heavier ! The 90 springs will fit but thats all. It will handle worse than now !!

[andyb]

Can 200tdi (Disco) shocks & springs be replaced by '90'ones?  Not too bothered about lift at the moment, but I'd like to lose a bit of the sag/roll under load

There isn't really a yes/no answer to this.

Only 110 springs will not fit because they have a larger diameter. In theory all 90/RR/Disco springs are interchangeable. It is just the free lengths and poundages that differ.

If you are trying to eleminate sag/body roll in an old Disco then replacing the shock and having the suspension bushes replaced (with polys if you like, blues would be my recommendation) can make a big difference.

HTH

[bullfrog]

I had red and whites (rears) all round on my rangie (300 Tdi). It lifts the front 3/4" more than the back. I put small spacers in to correct this.

[Xtremeteam]

In a word NO as the disco is considerably heavier ! The 90 springs will fit but thats all. It will handle worse than now !!

the shocks are a direct replacement & also the defender benefits from having heavyer duty shocks as standard

[bullfrog]

90 and defender are 2 different models and its the springs the vehicle sits on.
The shocks take the bounce out !
Most 90 springs and shocks will be a little tired by now whereas a defender set could well be only days old but either way the disco is considerably heavier and would sit a lot lower due to its big ar5e !
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[Xtremeteam]

90 and defender are 2 different models and its the springs the vehicle sits on.
The shocks take the bounce out !
Most 90 springs and shocks will be a little tired by now whereas a defender set could well be only days old but either way the disco is considerably heavier and would sit a lot lower due to its big ar5e !
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the 90 & defender springs are exactly the same no matter what age o the motor,

My 90 racer weighed 1900KG,henry websters disco is substantually lighter his has a full shell,mines was a soft top,go figure,

a disco is marginally heavyer than a 90 ie next to hee haw,

the defender/90/110 shocks are of a heavyer duty damping from standard so thats a good thing for a disco cos hes askin about the roll,fit a set of defender/90/110 heavy duty springs,(red/yellow/green & red/white/yellow)(iirc) on the front & a set of white whits on the arse,thus giving go kart stiffness,

BTDT with my 90,wanna go round roundabouts faster than a pimped out saxo fit the above^^^


<away for a pint now>  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

[bullfrog]

Well having checked with factory specs the 90 weighs 1795kgs (3729lbs) and the disco weighs 1900kgs (4375/9 lbs)
200 kgs is a fair weight difference and as stated an old set of 90 springs will be quite tired and are NOT the same spec as 110 being a different size for one and having to support 20" less chassis let alone vehicle.
A 90 has ally tub/floor and roof . A disco has 10" more chassis, steel floor and steel roof + a huge overhang acting as a counter balance affecting the load on the rear springs.
  :?
Guess you have added some weight to your racer to put 200 kgs on it over factory :?

In answer to the original question 90 springs/shocks will fit but I would order a set of disco ones as a minimum if not slightly uprated to improve on road handling. :)

[Xtremeteam]

Well having checked with factory specs the 90 weighs 1795kgs (3729lbs) and the disco weighs 1900kgs (4375/9 lbs)
200 kgs is a fair weight difference and as stated an old set of 90 springs will be quite tired and are NOT the same spec as 110 being a different size for one and having to support 20" less chassis let alone vehicle.
A 90 has ally tub/floor and roof . A disco has 10" more chassis, steel floor and steel roof + a huge overhang acting as a counter balance affecting the load on the rear springs.
  :?
Guess you have added some weight to your racer to put 200 kgs on it over factory :?

In answer to the original question 90 springs/shocks will fit but I would order a set of disco ones as a minimum if not slightly uprated to improve on road handling. :)

& you are still missing the point, :roll:  :roll:

a defender has stiffer springs to carry the weight, a disco has softer springs to give comfort,

yes i had added 200kg o weight cos as henry will prob remember it had a heavy bloody roll cage onit,it was also built out a chopped down 110 so thus was carrying a sals rear axle,

ALSO a defender chassis is deeper so theres more weight there to begin with,thats why every1 is using discos to build racers out of cos for a start its already that much lighter than a 90 chassis,add a cage & its nearly the same weight as a bare 90 chassis


At the end of the day what do i know eh??  :roll: