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Skibum346:

--- Quote from: "beast5680" ---i reported a suspicious van on a building site near me loading stuff in after hours and was questioned at length by the officer as if it were me who was in the wrong and was i making this up  :roll:
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If you go for a job, the interviewer will often ask probing questions to test your knowledge, competence and experience as well as get to information you didn't even know was relevent.

Interviwing people is a skill and in these instances, I'm confident that all they were doing was trying to get to information you were not even aware you had taken in.

Your perception may be diffirent, but if people act in a way that is diffirent to our expectations (just jump in the police car and chase them) it is very easy to translate that into inappropriate behaviour.

If you go to the doctor and they ask about your snoring when your in for a bad back, do you challenge them in the same way?

Skibum

Bob696:

--- Quote ---Incredible,..... first their doing too much... now their not doing enough...

**slaps forehead as only homer can**
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--- Quote ---Perhaps they should get right what they do at the moment rather than 'spreading their wings' so to speak
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Terminus:

--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---Perhaps they should get right what they do at the moment rather than 'spreading their wings' so to speak
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Yep you may have had some bad experiences but then as said earlier there is always a weak link in any line of employment, but for the greater part most are not.

Now...... ... I'm sure there's another debate going on somewhere not too far from here regarding the actions of certain anti 4x4 groups doing something akin to tarrring all with the same brush  :shock: ... and there seems to be a general concensus that is a bad thing.

You can't say its bad for one group of people and ok for another  :wink:

Bob696:

--- Quote ---Yep you may have had some bad experiences but then as said earlier there is always a weak link in any line of employment, but for the greater part most are not.
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I could not agree with you more tbh and I think I did say something along those lines earlier. I have nothing but respect for the job that police officers do (even the bad ones are up against it) but as has been said they are only human after all.

Police officers have enough on their plate as it is without adding the role of judge and jury to them as well. Let them do the job that Robert Peel organised them to do and leave the sentencing and such to the courts.

Terminus:

--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---
--- Quote ---Yep you may have had some bad experiences but then as said earlier there is always a weak link in any line of employment, but for the greater part most are not.
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I could not agree with you more tbh and I think I did say something along those lines earlier. I have nothing but respect for the job that police officers do (even the bad ones are up against it) but as has been said they are only human after all.

Police officers have enough on their plate as it is without adding the role of judge and jury to them as well. Let them do the job that Robert Peel organised them to do and leave the sentencing and such to the courts.
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Ah but the implication is that the Police are incapable of doing this - the law with regard to the crushing of vehicles (England and Wales only) has safeguards, this is not something a cop can just do on a whim it has to be evidenced, it has to be failure to desist or failure to provide documentation etc - which in turn have to be proveable.

The point is it is a fast track to decrease the burden on the already struggling courts but the level of evidence has to be the same as for court and the reasons justified fully because if there came a suggestion of someone acting unfairly or that it truly was a cop being spitefull it would have to be proven in the court that this was or was not the case.

You may think they're out to get me but - you'll find the concept of continuing in a good career with a good pension scheme which in effect like everyone else pays the mortgage is far greater than the one of being fired because they wanted to 'get at you' cause they had a bad day!

The law (as I'm sure you are aware) is not upheld by robots, it's upheld by people who when they sign off are just members of the public like you and subject to the same legislation (in fact worse - they are dealt with a lot harsher for any legal misdemeanors - trust me your life compared to the people you think incapable of being routinely fair is a far more free one)  :wink:

Edit - sadly you can't have it both ways people want justice but are not happy they are getting it - along come measures to assist and they find a reason to think they will be used to 'abuse' them.

It's one of those you're no good you're not trying hard enough but at the same time you're trying too hard lines - damned if you do - damned if you don't  :shock:

Ah well I'm not bitter  :D  thats us people for you - you could pick any subject you wanted and you'd find everyone hates something but they don't like the solutions either.  Fossil fuels V's nuclear energy and unsightly windfarm as just one example (please don't go debating this it's only an example  :lol:  :lol: )

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