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Skibum346:
Out of interest I had a look at the actual report.

The MP's only used the term 4x4 once and that was along with a reference to luxury saloons.


--- Quote ---As things stand, the VED paid by the highest emitting 4x4s and luxury saloons in Band G represents a lower percentage of their sales price, and works out at half the cost per gramme CO2 emitted, than lower emitting hatchbacks in Band C.
--- End quote ---


However, the news coverage seems to translate that statement VERY effectively..... doncha think?

Skibum

UDTrev:
Bet this doesn't get included:

"Sir,

This is yet another piece of biased reporting - all too often the BBC highlights 4x4s for being gas guzzling without the same level of reporting for other large vehicles - remember some small sports cars are far more polluting than your average Land rover or similar truck.

There is also NO mention of the fleet of 4x4s now running on bio fuels, some running exclusively on these renewable carbon neutral fuels - effectively this tax will punish owners of vehicles which release less carbon than your average town runabout.

The BBC used to be the byword for impartial reporting, clearly now you are failing to reach previously high standards of reporting.

Regards


Trevor Wilson"


Trev

TDi90:
why put sir in front? i diddnt.

Sheddy:
What annoys me is the lack of reportage regarding the truth about so-called environmentally friendly vehicles.  As far as I am aware, the worst is the Toyota Prius, which is being hailed as a breakthrough in personal transport.

When you look at the environmental damage caused whilst manufacturing these petrol/electric hybrids, the figures do not stack up.  Just take, for instance, the power storage system on these vehicles.  The Prius uses a combination of lead-acid and NiMH (nickel metal hydride) cells.  The lead-acid cells run the 12v systems and the NiMH (220v nominal) run through an inverter to increase the output to 500v.

Lead acid batteries are recycleable, albeit a non cost effective process.  The NiMH cells (Prius has 26 of these) are even more uneconomicl to recycle and there are very few companies world wide who are capable of doing the job.  It's expecteded that the vast majority of theses cells will end up as landfill.

The life expectancy of the NiMH celss is 8-10 years but Toyota only offer a 5 year guarantee on thier service life, thats how confident they are in thier product.  The cost of replacing these cells is currently around £2000+labour.

So the expected lifespan of these hybrid vehicles is currently 8-10 years but Toyota are only confident of 5 years.  What happens at the end of the (say) 8 years?  Are people going to spend in excess of £2000 to replace the cells?  Personally, I think not.

The impact on the environment of first manufacturing and then recycling these hybrids after only 8 years of service life is immense when compered to a Landrover with a service life which is measured typically in decades, not years.

Sheddy:
And lets not even start on the environmental debt created in the mineing and refining of the trace elements which are integral in the manufacture of catalytic converters.

Don't even consider getting me started on the use of Benzine (one of the most carcinogenic substances known) in unleaded fuel.

Hat, coat, door.

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