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rangerider:

--- Quote from: "Terminus" ---Hi Evilgoat

I keep re-reading my remarks on blue led's and still don't think I made it clear - hehe so ... here's the exact line on em as per Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 (part of construction and use regs)- as far as displaying blue light to the front they are not illegal they only become illegal in one circumstance  as stated earlier if they flash

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The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989
Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
    16.    No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with-


(a)  a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or


(b)  a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

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The important words are "similar" and "resembles"  


Additionally there is a multitude of legisilation regarding the position of an colorus of lights.

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Optional lamps, reflectors, rear markings and devices
    20.    Every optional lamp, reflector, rear marking or device fitted to a vehicle, being of a type specified in an item in column 2 of the Table below, shall comply with the provisions shown in column 3 of that Table.

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If you read through this then those damn washe nozzle lights are illegal as regards not being white, and are more than likely illegal as in not having the relevant british standards type approval

Techincally, many (probably all) of us running fog lights on roof bars are also in breach of these regs! even on green lanes as these are subject to all relevant legislation.

anybody fancying a headache can try http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm :D

TimM:

--- Quote from: "rangerider" ---Techincally, many (probably all) of us running fog lights on roof bars are also in breach of these regs! even on green lanes as these are subject to all relevant legislation.

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We've argued that one to death many a time, roof lights we have decided are illegal on any and all roads, for off road use only, be they fog lights or any other type of light.

Terminus:
hehe similar to and resembles are indeed key words but if you read the definition of  "Special warning lamp" and Warning beacon" they go as follows

Special warning lamp - A lamp fitted to the front or rear of a vehicle, capable of emitting a blue flashing light and not any other kind of light"

Warning Beacon - A lamp that is capable of emitting a flashing or rotating beam of light throughout 3600 in the horizontal plane.

Trust me on this one - why you ask - perhaps my introduction http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=27264 might explain it. I'm the man in your mirror lol.

rangerider:
In my defence........ I was gettin my info from a retired black rat who has issued chavs with fpns for such lighting.

unlikely to be in my mirror, i cant get that fast :)

And at the risk of ranting..... how can anyone be expected to obey lighting regs when those gents in the silver Astras wont?:)

Terminus:
rangerider


--- Quote ---And at the risk of ranting..... how can anyone be expected to obey lighting regs when those gents in the silver Astras wont?
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I'm guessing that down there they drive silver astra's then - we of course for some unexplained reason use the ford focus in white and battenburg - not a bad car until you try to respond to an emergency in the estate version!!! - Ever tried manouvering a bathtub down a busy high street, ah all the responsiveness of a hippo that's been released in a distillery and had a few barrels of lunch!

**I hasten to add in case anyone has a Ford Focus I am not condemning it it's just the estate is not a get there very fast and graciously car**  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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