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Greenpeace - oh what have they become :(
MK-90:
Not Gorm...the Stephanoph bloke :? During the uni's environmental week i ended up with one of those fake parking tickets :twisted: Didnt see who did it though...I thought i had another a few days later. Alas the second was real :oops:
The rest all seem to be rather with it :D
Rangie3.0LtrDan:
Yeah, its just showing its the minority, that forum is the ideal showpiece for our defence to show that most people dont care!
All but one person stated that off roading was fine, one person said it wasnt, although i would like to get in contact with this gimp and ask him what i am supposed to do as i cant walk for more than 20 metres without severe pain, of course i am supposed to sit at home and do nothing like a good little cripple!
Jas278:
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--- Quote ---Gorm says ...
Whose idea was this?
I fail to see how a pedestrian/cycle area on a culturally diverse campus is an appopriate location to park some gas guzzling pedestrian unfriendly symbol of American oppression.
Asking students/staff not to bring cars onto campus, and then parking this in a pedestrian area, doesn't seem particularly clever.
If you must permit a 4WD, may a recommend a landrover instead? Preferably with some evidence it has spent some time off road.
Hummers for show, Landies for a pro?
/G
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Well it seems he knows what he is talking about, he isnt slamming off roaders, he is slamming a motor that quite obviously wasnt used offroad.
I do agree with the arguments about people having them and not using them how they are supposed to be used, as alot of people are using them as a fashion statement which is where our bad press is coming from.
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EVERYBODY should have a choice, are Porsche drivers all Racing drivers ,no.......................
discotdi:
I saw the Greenpeace video this morning I was a little pixxed to say the least,I have always thought they did a good job showing the public what gose on in the world but that vid was just jumping on the band wagon.
I sent them a mail just say they have lost the plot and should spend money on far more important things .
So this is there repliy.
Sorry the film upset you so much. It was aimed at city gas guzzlers not farmers or other people who need them or who have modified them. It was produced by people inside the advertising industry who normally make car ads. They wanted to do something for us that challenged the whole aspirational nature of 4X4s of giving freedom, sex apppeal, etc etc. It was really just done as a spoof car ad. Some people have said its brilliant, some not. But I respect your views on this and we will take them into account for future work we do on
Dirty Gertie:
My five penn'orth:
Dear God!!! You people have really overstepped the mark this time!!!
Inciting bullying in the workplace; including name-calling, sending to coventry and SPITTING in peoples drinks!!! DISGUSTING!!!!
When oh when will you people do some PROPER research into the environmental WHOLE LIFE impact of vehicles on our planet???
The majority of pollution from any vehicle is produced during ints PRODUCTION
Some 75% of all Land Rovers EVER manufactured are STILL on the road; how many Prius's will be around 50 odd years after their manufacture?? Very very few I suspect!!
Have you considered the environmental impact of disposing of all the 'eco-friendly' euro boxes that their owners blithely replace every 2 or 3 years? And don't even get me started on the ecological nightmare yet to come when battery-powered vehicles become popular, due to your misguided hate campaigns!! - All those batteries need to be disposed of; oh, and where does their initial power come from? Oh, yes, power stations, burning fossil fuels to make the electricity to charge them!
I suggest that you do some REAL research before you incite hate-crime on people who really DO have the well-being of the planet at heart!
Oh, and I don't want a woolly liberal apology telling me that, as the owner of a 13 year old Land Rover; you didn't mean me; 'Joe Public' sees the Land Rover as the epitome of the 4 wheel drive vehicle, and rightly so, BUT we should NOT be targetted as figures of villification; particularly by people who think it is perfectly alright to fly on holidays several times a year, recycle nothing, change their commuter-box every 2 or three years, so they don't have the 'bother' of maintaining it.
Get real Greenpeace; I suggest you do some REAL research about the people YOU are encouraging the general public to turn violently against, I think you will find there are many who deserve your wrath far more; or are we simply an easy target??
I suggest you READ (properly) http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
and THEN send me your explanation and apology for the disgusting waste of celluloid you have put into the public domain.
Oh and IF you REALLY want to make a difference in carbon emissions; I suggest you lobby the government to drop the punitive taxes currently levied on the use of carbon negative fuels.
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