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disco dod:

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jimbo i work in a class 4 only test station, and have only been testing for 2 years so i'm still learning. i dont know mutch on class 7's but i'm pretty sure its just the exact same test but for a heavier vehicle. a class 4 mot ramp is only classed to lift 3000kg. if its heavier for health and safety reasons you need to get it tested on a larger, class 7 ramp.

i'd imagine vosa are right in what they say about the weight and test class, but if you have written proof (v5, or chassis plate) that  the standard motor is under 3000kg then you can try to book it in as a class 4 and hope the tester dosent ask about the extra weight.

unless its a comercial vehicle with a weight plate on it, the weight is normaly taken from your vin plate. witch will show the original spec weight. so i think i'd just be going for the class 4 test myself but its up to you.

i have personaly lifted big merc and transit vans over the 3000kg limit on my ramp (for repairs not tests) and although they're heavier than the said limit there wasnt a problem. so dont worry that a class 4 test wont lift the lanny

hope this has helped and not confused you.

Dod

smo:
This doesnt make sense, everyone in the know says its done on the "plate/VIN/V5" weight, which is 1935kg or there abouts, so how would it quality for a class 7 as its never going to be over 3000kg, and even it if was heavier than the plate says, which most are, they are never going to know without a weighbridge and last time i checked there wasnt one of them included in the mot!!

So its gotta be a Class 4, standard "car" mot, my 110 HT HD TD5 i had previously was (and still is ad far as i know).

Jimbo:
The VIN plate on mine says 3500kgs for the GLW (gross laden weight - ie, the weight of the vehicle when it is fully loaded), this ties in with the V5 which has a revenue weight of 3500kgs - because the truck is taxed as LGV (rather than PLG), they put the GLW/revenue weight on the V5, a PLG taxed motor will have a blank for the revenue weight on the V5.

According to VOSA, if the vehicle weighs under 2040kgs unladen (and conforms to some other requirements) - it will be Class 4, as soon as the unladen weight goes above 2040kgs, you get into Class 7 territory.

A genuine 110 Station Wagon unladen weight is about 2055kgs, and there will be no revenue weight on the V5, and the body type will show 'estate' -so it gets a Class 4

Jim

TEMPL4R:
There still seems to be some confusion as to the Testing weights.

 Class 4 is for a Passenger carrying vehicle, under 13 seats, (over 13 is Class 5, a Bus Test) and Light Commercials up to 3000kg DGW. You will never go for a Class 4a.

 Over 3000 and under 3500kg DGW is Class 7. The difference is the Tyre Load Rating is calculated and the Tyre size is taken into account.

If an NT Tests a Class 7 vehicle with a Class 4 Test, he will be Reprimanded and Points given to Him and the VTS. It simply is not allowed.
We look at the plate and if the DGW is over 3000kg, you do not get a Class 4 Test, as simple as that.

You can strip the vehicle down to the chassis if you like, but it will still be the DGW that counts and it is still a Class 7. The vehicles physical weight is nothing to do with the Testing weight.

Chris

Jimbo:
DGW ? is that the same as GVW (gross vehicle weight)

The VOSA guy did suggest that I could get the revenue weight on the V5 changed - he said to just write the 'real' weight on the V5 and send it off (just like you were changing the colour for example !). That doesn't help me as I'm sure the 110 will still be over the 2040kgs limit.

I've checked the tyre rating, they are (BFG MT's) LT 265/75R 16 and the rating bit says 120/116 Q M&S - now, which of the rating figures is the one the MOT man looks at, 120 or 116 ?. According to the (most informative) Black Circles website, 120 equates to 1400kg load per tyre, and 116 equates to 1250 load per tyre - even if it's the lower figure, as I have four tyres, that's four times 1250kgs = 5000kgs, so plenty.

It's gonna be much easier to just get a Class 7 test, there's quite a good station 20 mins drive from me - just need to remember to book the appt now !!!! (test is due in Nov)

Jim

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