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landraver:

--- Quote from: "Baby_Rhino" ---I feel this is a subject where we can easily brand people into a stereotype! You will always have responsible people in each group, as well as the ones who give the group a bad name.

I quite often see dog owners let their dogs mess on the pavement, even though we have the dog bins around the town.

As a horse rider I choose not to ride on the road, as most drivers dont slow down even though I wear a yellow tabard and ride horses who are good in traffic. I ALWAYS thank people if i meet them on a byway and they let me pass.

And as for the diet thing, horses dont eat meat (unlike dogs) thats why it doesnt smell as bad  :D
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Although I don't ride myself, I'm with you.
It's a bit hypocritical of people to slate horses for being on the roads (who've been there for hundreds of years before motor vehicles) & then complain about the banning of 4x4s from the lanes. IMHO Everyone has the right to use the roads / lanes, whatever their choice of vehicle, and no-one should be forced off them by other inconsiderate users!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fram:
Well said Landylover, couldn't have put it better myself.
going back to the insurance thing earlier in the post, what about insurance for push bikes. they pull out infront on you, you hit them although it is their fault and do serious damage to your car, but can you claim on their insurance? Chance would be a fine thing.
I'm of the opinion that anyone who uses the roads should have some kind of insurance.

rollazuki:
I for one will admit to hating seeing horses on roads.
They are only vaguely in control at the best of times, and are prone to....erm.....veering about a bit.


My car would not be allowed to use the road if its steering veered about, and it didnt stop as and when the pedal was pressed. There also may be issues if it scampered about if a noisy motorbike or similar overtook it. Im also only allowed to produce a certain level of emissions.

A horse does all of the above and produces solid waste which I can tell you(as a biker) is deadly when you hit it............(and smelly)

I discriminate only on grounds of safety. My 4x4 isnt being banned on safety grounds from the countryside, its being banned cos apparently it tears up the lanes(you ever seen the damage horses feet do to a muddy lane!!!)

Yes Id like to see horses banned from the road.(sorry horsey guys and gals out there). But its from a safety aspect only. Id work for a company that has a body shop, and have seen the damage a horse can do(especially when it SITS on the car :lol:)

I like em tho, theyre lovely things galloping about etc, though I dont share the enthusiasm to ride them.

waveydavey:
I still stick with what I said earlier; cars pay to use the roads, be it byways or motorways; they have to be insured, proven safe, taxed and the "operator" has to pass a test to prove they are capable of driving it safely which they can't even learn to do until they are 17.

A young kid can take any horse on a public road, even one weighing a lot more than many cars and which cannot be controlled and is plainly unsafe.

I am not anti horses but there are people who are irrisponsible with them and they do damage roads. Yes they have been around longer but why should that make them exempt from the road traffic act?

The horses in New York City have little bags under the back to catch the Pooh !

Tyke:

--- Quote ---I'm of the opinion that anyone who uses the roads should have some kind of insurance
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Compulsory !!! . . . . should have been sorted years ago.


As for the Horses, I have no problems with them these days, most of the riders I know take out voluntary insurance now so they do have some sense of responsibilty to other road users.



What really gets to me is the pig ignorant attitude of those hordes of bleedin' push bike riders. Never have I know such a miserable, bad tempered, think they can do whatever they want on the road, bunch of uninsured assholes in my life.


Four abreast, holding up the normal road traffic, cutting corners, jumping traffic lights, generally ignoring the majority of road traffic regulations and rules, even the highway code seems to mean nothing to the vast majority of them. Then they have the cheek to complain about motor vehicles.

Statistically they are the group of road users who are most likely to be involved ion an accident . . . . . . but are they insured . . . . most probably not !!!

I tell you, ramblers and push bikers . . . all came from the same mould. 99% of the ones I've met are totaly selfish assholes who want everything for themselves, their own way, whenever they want, at everyone elses expense. . . . nobs !!!!


Oh yeah . . . and my dog craps where he wants . . . . I can't really stop that . . . . . but I do have a bag for clearing up with when in public places  :wink:



Rant over . . . good to get that off my chest  :twisted:

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