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Nerc Challenge - Lake District Protest

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Rangie3.0LtrDan:
Thats miles south of the lakes, we are talking about an hour away.  I will look into more appropriate accomodations!

rangerider:
Was just a thought that passed as I was typing. Been many many years since I got chance to head up to that part of the world.

Lee_D:
Whooooa! Heads up!


Section 59 also applies to Crusers who use vehicles in an anti social manner.

If some of the proposals come to light as suggested then people could become as popular as 4x4 cruisers and on the sharp end of a sect 59 warning / confiscation of vehicle even without seeing a lane. :shock:

Lee D

rangerider:
S59 Police Reform Act 2002

States
59     Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
 
      (1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which-
 
  (a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
  (b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
  he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
 
      (2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
 
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Road Traffic Act 1988

 3.    If a person drives a motor vehicle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence.


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Hence my earlier comments about coordinating with the local Police, and my suggestion to make use of laybys and carparks as often as possible, showing "reasonable consideration" as well as being able to talk with other people in the area.

I think it is a very grey area legally, who hasn't wished that caravan/pensioner/tractor would pull into the next layby and let some people pass, hence my asking about legal situations earlier. This was also part of my thinking behind 4 vehicle convoys, 4 being the number generally recommended for laning, and less likely to attract too much attention on a legal front than a never ending string of motors trundling along slowly.

If we do not show out now, it will soon be too late. The goalposts have already been moved to our detriment once, and each time "Concerned from Tonbridge Wells" writes to their MP we shall lose another lane, even if said lane is hundreds of miles from anywhere that paticular writer is ever likely to go.

Groups such as the Ramblers Association, the National Trust etc (risk of stereotyping here) have a large number of members with a lot of free time to be involved in the action plans of such groups and to write the necessary letters, attend the protest marches etc, and so as such they have a great politcal voice. At the risk of further sterotyping they have higher disposal incomes (a pair of good walking boots to last 3-4 years, £70, a set of decent tyres for us, 5 times that)

A quick look at respective websites shows the following

RA membership  143,000
AWDC membership 2,500
Glass has 1900 Members, and app. 25,000 affiliate members
GLEAM has 1000 members, (no website found, data taken from greenlink berkshire) but more importantly claims 100 MPs as honorary members

On a local level our various clubs and groups are great for dealing with local councils about local lanes, but on a national level we seem to be lacking. Yes we have only ourselves to blame, that is why we should act whilst we still can. We were promised in 2000 that we could apply for status upgrades for rupp to boat, only to be ignored (betrayed?) when NERC came to pass.

I for one will be considering several trips to wales this summer, and pointing out to B&B owners, petrol station managers, shopkeepers etc that NERC will cost them my money.

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