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Going from a TD5 to a 300TDI?
dew1911:
I gotta admit I agree as well, I'd much rarther have the older TDs or TDis than the TD5, I've just heard too many Horror stories, plus the Economy is apparently dreadful compared to the TDis.
smo:
--- Quote from: "dew1911" ---I gotta admit I agree as well, I'd much rarther have the older TDs or TDis than the TD5, I've just heard too many Horror stories, plus the Economy is apparently dreadful compared to the TDis.
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Horror stories like what? There are very few cases of anything nasty, even drowning a TD5 ECU is remarkably difficult!
The economy is on a par with TDi's, no better no worse....not dreadful in comparison by any stretch of the imagination!
dew1911:
Horror Stories like Electrical issues stranding the vehicle in the pouring rain at 3am on the M-Way (Happened to a mates 90), Oil issues, all sorts, It just doesn't get the same amount of Positive press that the TDs and TDis got.
nosnibod:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---
Horror stories like what? There are very few cases of anything nasty, even drowning a TD5 ECU is remarkably difficult!
The economy is on a par with TDi's, no better no worse....not dreadful in comparison by any stretch of the imagination!
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Apart from the injector harness, a weeping clutch master cylinder (which took a franchised dealer 6 working days to replace!) and a leaking fuel pump I've had no problems in nearly 61,000 miles, and a few thousand of those have been off-road.
Thinking of it, the leaking fuel pump was probably self inflicted since it started after I fitted the Webasto heater - you have to drop the tank for Webasto fuel line.
I've had a word with JE Engineering (who used to test TD5s for Land Rover) and the injector harness is the most likely cause of the misfire I had. Seems that sometimes just flexing the harness can make or break the thing, and a new harness fixes the problem in 99% of cases. At £40 or so for a spare one I'll probably get one just in case - takes 30 minutes to fit at most. That's better than all of the faffing about trying to get a main dealer to tend to it.
As for economy, I'm running a full 195BHP Stage 2 from JE Engineering with 1.2:1 gearing, 265/75 Goodyear MT/Rs, loads of recovery and rescue gear on board and get an average of around 27.5mpg. That's a mixture of motorways, A roads, lanes and bits of standing around in traffic. I normally do about 65 or so on the motorway.
That also includes 15 minutes of the Webasto every morning, so I'm probably closer to 28mpg.
So, overall it's quite acceptable and not the horror story people make out.
Given the stick I've given the thing over the last couple of years, it's done remarkably well, so when it has gone wrong it has been a bit of a shock.
Perhaps if I gave it name it would help :wink: I should start a thread on naming it and then I can smash a bottle of cheap bubbly on the bumper. Gotta do these things right, you know...
Bush Tucker Man:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---
--- Quote from: "dew1911" --- plus the Economy is apparently dreadful compared to the TDis.
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The economy is on a par with TDi's, no better no worse....not dreadful in comparison by any stretch of the imagination!
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I see an average of between 30 & 32MPG for my 110, that's on 'run of the mill' (day to day driving)
My old 110 (a 300Tdi) used to average about 27MPG for the same useage
I think it's a very flexible engine, pottering about with complete ease at 15-20MPH in 5th & also holding 30MPH (in 5th) up a 1-in-11 on the way to work everyday with no complaints, or juddering
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