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drink driving check
andycwb:
--- Quote from: "discograham" ---One thing I am not.. when referring to crime and punishment... is tolerent... hang 'em, flog 'em, chuck away the key etc... :lol:
Society has gone soft and we shall reap the whirlwind... :shock:
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I meant tolerant of the policing, not the crime! I'm as much for hanging, flogging and key-chucking as you are, but I don't want my life interfered with while we catch them.
Yes, I'm an idealist.
NiceBlueWellies:
--- Quote from: "discograham" ---This is not about stopping crime.. this is about not destroying lives..
I don't care if I'm stopped 3 times a day.. as long as it's polite and quick and purely for the purpose of a breath test... I don't drink and drive and never have but the point is how do the old bill know who is innocent until they check ? .. let them check...
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With you - let them check.
I've been checked going into clubs before, and never objected. As Discograham says, they won't know who is innocent till they check. :wink:
Dirty Gertie:
--- Quote from: "andycwb" ---
There should certainly be the same level of legislation and enforcement around other mind-altering drugs. It's perverse that it's (sort of) OK to drive when out of your mind on something you shouldn't have been able to take in the first place.
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Well, I'm not sure what law books you've been reading; but in this country, there IS zero tolerance on "Drug-driving" any illegal drug in the system will attract a LONG ban; the only strange thing is that driving after the consumption of alcohol; THE[/u] most destructive drug of all; is STILL thought by an unenlightened minority to be acceptable!!
:roll:
discograham:
Don't you find this a little odd.. ? Most people I talk to on issues pertaining to crime and punishment seem to hold similar views to those that I hold. Even those who supposedly speak on our behalf and are directly involved with the passing of new legislation seem on the face of it to hold similar views...
It just begs the question... why are things that we would wish.. such as police stopping people as they leave pubs and events and breathalising them, just not done..? Damn your civil rights... no CIVIL person has a RIGHT to endanger the lives of others... its time this country stopped hiding behind the various civil rights laws... I'm tired of hearing these toerags screaming "you can't do that.. I know my rights..."
Or am I just a little right wing of Attila the Hun.. ?
andycwb:
--- Quote from: discograham ---Don't you fi
--- Quote from: "Dirty Gertie" ---
Well, I'm not sure what law books you've been reading; but in this country, there IS zero tolerance on "Drug-driving" any illegal drug in the system will attract a LONG ban; the only strange thing is that driving after the consumption of alcohol; THE[/u] most destructive drug of all; is STILL thought by an unenlightened minority to be acceptable!!
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I have a deal with the lawyers around here. I don't tell them about the law, and they don't tell me how to run computer networks. I'm not sure of the precise legislation, I do know that alcohol is the only one for which there is a defined limit and easily administered test - probably because it's so commonplace.
--- Quote from: "discograham" ---It just begs the question... why are things that we would wish.. such as police stopping people as they leave pubs and events and breathalising them, just not done..? Damn your civil rights... no CIVIL person has a RIGHT to endanger the lives of others... its time this country stopped hiding behind the various civil rights laws... I'm tired of hearing these toerags screaming "you can't do that.. I know my rights..."
Or am I just a little right wing of Attila the Hun.. ?
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Well said. I think we are actually in closer agreement that this thread might suggest. I tend to lean a little more to giving people the rope to hang themselves with (I'd prefer to do it in a way that didn't let them take someone else with them) than to having lots of checks and balances which assume everyone might be guilty to start with, but no, endangering other people is a NOT a right.
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