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muddyweb:

--- Quote from: "bezzabsa" ---OK so we can all be a little 'anti police' at times, but just remember that if your kid got knocked down by a speeder would you still wave at people to warn them of a speed camera???
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I'm not anti-police at all.  Most of the coppers I know are almost as frustrated by the state of affairs as the rest of us.  I have a problem with the people who seem to be in charge of their deployment.

I share a lot of discograham's views about these things...  I don't believe that doing 80 mph on a dual carriageway is especially dangerous, or any more likely to cause an accident...  lack of driver attention and a lack of respect for the speed you are travelling and your surrounding are far more relevant.   Slow the vehicles down where they are in close proximity to people.. and make the people more responsible for their own actions.....  when was the last time you heard of a pedestrian being charged for due care & attention ?

Thankfully, I have not lost any relative to a car, and I hope that remains the case....  but I have seen the mess first hand of a few RTAs, all of which were caused by a lack of care by one party or another.

discograham:
Just to clear my take on the police up a little...
There is no escaping it.. we need the police
They do have to clear a lot of mess up on the roads..  :(  although the fire brigade and ambulance crews are the real stars...
My biggest gripe is the waste of resources. You call the police out 'cos youve been burgled or you see a crime in progress, or you see a drunk driving, or an assault, or tip them off to a criminals activities.. what do you get.. a visit a few days later...
If some immigrant says you called him an immigrant... or, God forbid,(please note the sarcasm) ..
        (something that ive come back and managed to edit in the end.. :!: )    
  ... well, half the police force is on your back.. but you can't air those views.. oh no.. some do gooder will soon complain.. despite the fact that most of us...  or so I believe .. feel that way..
Its all down to priorities.. the powers that be seem to think this is the way to go forward... Well, here's some news for them. The're wrong. If you want to catch drink drivers, pull people outside a pub car park. Damn their civil rights in this case...
And as for the violent little scrotes about.. and all the petty vagabonds.. bring back the stocks.. Put them in, in nothing but underpants..and leave them there for a few days.. no toilet breaks.. they do it in their pants. After that public humiliation they are sure to be good girls and boys...
And make prisons somewhere people dont want to go... remove the tellys, pool tables, gym equipment and make the little f*****s work.. if they dont ..chuck 'em in a cell and hose 'em down with cold water every few hours.... want me to go on .. cos I havent started yet.... :twisted:
If the police see criminals being punished, then maybe they ( the police )will get their enthusiasm back...

Lord Shagg-Pyle:
DiscoGraham, re your last post
I don't have a problem with people having opinions. I do have a problem with people who use words that are offensive and derogatory, in what is a forum that can be viewed by anyone.
I appreciate that you are using them in the context of an example, but there are those in the Media and in the anti 4x4 fraternity who could seize upon it and label Mud Club members as racist.
Can I suggest that you edit your post?

att:

--- Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle" ---DiscoGraham, re your last post
I don't have a problem with people having opinions. I do have a problem with people who use words that are offensive and derogatory, in what is a forum that can be viewed by anyone.
I appreciate that you are using them in the context of an example, but there are those in the Media and in the anti 4x4 fraternity who could seize upon it and label Mud Club members as racist.
Can I suggest that you edit your post?
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You obviously have a problem with folks opinions, or you would not have used it in your opening line..
I see no racism, just reality, ask me how I know.
The media could care less for what is written here, they have far more racism to print themselves, much more interesting to the average brainwashed Brit.

I find you tag name offensive, the connotations it must conjure for those hard of spelling must be disturbing.

Anyways, let`s laugh :lol: ..We should do it more often in this facist, controlling, nannying little peice of the planet that we all call the UK.
According to the EEC, England does not exist anymore :shock:

hobbit:
It seems nowadays PC does not stand for police constable any more does it

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