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Rip-off recovery
nufcgirlie:
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--- Quote from: "nufcgirlie" ---The guy on the bonnet happens to be my other half and his reply to your question is "looks like it is you that has the death wish" :evil:
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OK.. no need for that !
Clearly mistakes were made during the recovery, and it is fortuitous that nobody was injured or worse... this is the important bit !
Lessons for everyone, both participants and observers.... 8)
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I am sorry if I have offended you but it realy does get my back up when people assume they can assess a situation just from looking at a photograph that only shows our 90 and not where the recovering vehicle is in relation to the 90. The full extent of the situation could have only been assessed by the people that were watching the recovery. I wonder what redlinemike would have done if he had been there????? Stopped the whole recovery and advised the expert what he was doing wrong? O:)
Xtremeteam:
--- Quote ---Stopped the whole recovery and advised the expert what he was doing wrong
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i have no problem whatsoever in stepping in & stopping someone elses recoverys no matter who they are :!: especially when they are about to make themselves a danger to those around them
defenderdan:
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--- Quote from: "defenderdan" ---So this recovery was being overseen by Vince cobley "off road guru" (to quote LRO) A kinetic recovery was attempted when imo the motor was too stuck for this to work, and somebody was stood on the vehicles bonet at the time. Disaster in the making. :roll:
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that kinda sums up my view but what i think aint suitable to post,been doing rally recovery for years,done kerr recovery for long enough & now doing hard winching & that has got to be the most dangerous thing ive seen in a while,i cant think of anyway to put it apart from "does the guy on the bonnet have a death wish"? & does a name overtake knowledge & control??
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And I suppose, being Mr Perfect, you never make mistakes do you????? I don,t realy think you should be passing judgment on an incident that you did not witness :x
We realise that mistakes have been made and we will learn by those mistakes. But when a so called recovery/winch expert allows mistakes like this to happen????????????? :roll: It makes you wonder?
The guy on the bonnet happens to be my other half and his reply to your question is "looks like it is you that has the death wish" :evil:
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Yes everyone makes mistakes which is what ithink that the recovery attempt and the resulting damage was. However I can't see that standing on the vehicle at the time can be seen as anything other than dangerous. What would have happened if the recovery had worked and the motor had come flying out at 20mph?
I have watched the video footage on your forum and not just looked at the piccies on here.
I am not trying to point the finger at anyone, i simply posted in disbelief at what i saw. I'm glad that nobody was hurt and i hope you get your motor sorted out :)
rokcrawlin:
I am well aware of the fatal concequences that could have occured......and given a repeat situation would use only the winch, it may be a lot slower...... but a damn sight safer, and as i had picked up the recovery off Vince and the decision was mine to recover with the kinetic I do not think it is fair to tar him with a brush because of my actions.and do not think it is necessary to have a session of character assasination on him. and i am still contemplating wether i will do any marshalling at any events of any sort, so if you want to persuade me to stop helping, nows the time to speak up .......Pete
Xtremeteam:
--- Quote from: "rokcrawlin" ---I am well aware of the fatal concequences that could have occured......and given a repeat situation would use only the winch, it may be a lot slower...... but a damn sight safer, and as i had picked up the recovery off Vince and the decision was mine to recover with the kinetic I do not think it is fair to tar him with a brush because of my actions.and do not think it is necessary to have a session of character assasination on him. and i am still contemplating wether i will do any marshalling at any events of any sort, so if you want to persuade me to stop helping, nows the time to speak up .......Pete
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i have been marshalling at events & competing for approx 8+ years (only 20 the now) & wouldnt want to put anyone of marshalling but there is times when you have to voice an opinion & also times when you need to step back & look at the situation in the "bigger picture" ,kerrs are great tools BUT there are times when a winch pull is the far better way to do something as its a steady pull where ass the kerrs a snatch,on ccv & hillrally vehicles then the towing points "will" be to a suitable standard,on a road motor 1 snatch maybe 2,if it doesnt come out have a rethink,ill have a think about what more i can think of
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