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4x4 bashing - have your say
Singlefin:
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--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---As to causing damage to the enviroment that in itself is debatable. Greenhouse gasses from cows, running on veg oil/lpg, mpg and even is global warming man made at all
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If Dinosaurs had 4x4's do you think we'd have had the Ice Age :-k
Do enviromentalists ever look at this planets past? Earth has gone through many climate changes, we may not have helped with some, but it could be some natural changes are happening. and as for emissions, volcanos produce more sulphur and other gases than my 4x4 will ever churn out.
I'd like to see Greenpeace try and stop mother nature as she's one evil lady when you get her back up :shock:
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In a few billion years time, it's possible that it'll start raining sodium. Can't see that being too pleasant. :shock:
drutt:
oddly enough, in a geological sense earth is currently in an ice age as temperatures are lower than they have (or should) be. Regardless of whether CO2 production via cars etc is the cause of this, and whether the reversal of the solar dimming effect caused by the clean air acts isn't a problem as well and then get into a thousand other arguments....
There is a simple matter to be considered. 4x4s are not "by definition" more accident prone, or "gas guzzlers" and there are many many cars that fair far worse in the NCAP crash tests and emmissions stakes. Regardless of what this numpty has said there *is* research into how much damage a car does when it hits a child, this is incorperated into the pedestrian safety score on the NCAP crash tests, tests which place the Range Rover in the same catagory as an Audi A3... So are we going to ban those too ?
To base the judgement and taxation of vehicles on something as arbitary as whether a history teacher happens to think it's an SUV or not is as ludicrous as it is impractical. How are you going to define it ? number of driven wheels ? well, there goes the imprezza, the audi, the jag... length ? there goes most cars, weight, jag is out of the window again, width? height? size, shape and colour of badge ?
Not to mention that "adding a warning sign to the dashboard" is just blatently retarded as a suggestion. As if sitting in a Discovery reading a little sign saying "this vehicle is dangerous" is going to make me think "well, really? I'd better stop deliberately mowing small children over" then. As if a Micra is going to hurt less. Yes, a Micra has a better 30mph crash safety rating for children than a discovery, but what the hell was I doing driving past a school at 30, and what the hell was the child doing on the road?
Learn to drive, learn to react, learn tollerance and teach our children some stuffing road safety ...
or is this warning badge going to be made out of the same plastic that also stops terrorists from blowing themselves up, and presumably cures cancer in rats and bird flu.
dew1911:
Looks like mines been removed... What did I do to offend?
Dirty Gertie:
Well, I've tried to register, but for some reason I can't validate my email addy; also, I'm feeling very inadequate, cos I've been driving my Landy for over 3 years now, and I STILL haven't grown a pen!s!! :(bigcry): :(bigcry):
BTW, I love the way D Smith changes their definition of 'evil 4x4' every time an owner challenges him/her!! :(biglaugh):
mark.yellow.series.3:
--- Quote from: "smartprice" ---I think people here are missing the point of the article. I totally agree with what the article is saying, that is that people in cities with no practical use for a 4x4 are harming the environment.
I dont think even the antis are against anyone owning a series 3, a rugged defender or disco. What they are against are sparkling discos, rangies and other makes such as BMW and Porche which are never used for the means that a 4x4 is required. If you have horses, put a sticker in the rear window or something else which highlights that you DO have a use for the vehicle.
I think that inner city 4x4's (Chelsea Tractors) are totally pointless and only cause damage to the environment, which we DO have a responsibility for.
totally agree with that.
Come on mud-clubbers, as responsible users of 4x4's we should not get hot-headed when people attack the Chelsea Tractors, instead realise that they are causing damage to the environment.
Instead of fighting off the arguements against 4x4's we could more constructively use our time and efforts to highlight that other cars, which aren't AWD can cause as much of a problem to the environment, and as they move faster and have less of a view of the road probably cause more accidents.
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