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Lucy1978:
Emailed a reply to her

SO the Gas Guzzlers have been hit in the latest Budget, have they? You could have fuelled me.
I would call this measly 35 quid increase in their Excise Duty more of a mild scratch.

Actually, just to rub it in, the road tax increase for your average landy driver is about a fiver, quite a lot less than your average four door family car, yes I am laughing at you.

What it is, however, is a real shunt in the kisser to all those who of us who were conned into believing Gordy was finally going to do something to drive these motorised monstrosities off our crowded roads, particularly the city streets.
No one, I repeat NO ONE, who lives within a built-up area needs one. Not for shopping. Not for bussing the kids around. Not for posing. Not for anything.
All right, I'll make an exception, they're probably just about acceptable up on 4x4 bricks with the tyres removed.

But then who in a built up area needs a car?  just for your information, believe it or not a land rover discovery is shorter than a for focus, They aren't motorised monstrosities.  now the Nissan micra that IS a monstrosity.

But where they should never be seen is within 10 miles of any town centre or school.

Why? they have as much right to be there as you do, and the big thirsty ones more so as they pay more in fuel tax as they use more, so contribute a greater amount to the upkeep of the road network.
Don't let them be driven near either.

I accept in country places your trusty, rusty ( they're made from Aluminium Dear, which doesn't rust) old Land Rover is fine and handy for farmers taking sheep to market, but no yummy mummy who lives in an urban area needs a BMWX5 to drop her overweight pampered darlings off at the school gates.

True why don't they walk? though a little Fiat parked outside the school gates is just as bad as an X5.

Apart from anything else, it's dangerous because when these blasted, bloated, civilian tanks park outside - usually illegally because we've got a Range Rover and we don't give a damn about anyone - they block the view of other kids and drivers.

inconsiderate parking has nothing to do with the type of car being driven, there are just as many badly parked 'city' cars on the streets probably more as there are more of them.

But then they are dangerous full stop and period.  

How so? You get a far better view of the road, you can see over the badly parked saloons and see that little Johnny is about to run out from between them to his mum waiting in her mini parked illegally on the double yellows opposite the school gates and act accordingly.  True they maybe less forgiving if you do get hit by one but the chances of being it are much reduced due to the better visibility. Anyone who's dangerous driving a 4x4 would be just as bad in a metro.

Not, natch, for those who are perched up there above the hoi polloi thinking they are Kings and Queens of the highway.
They could well be safer but should they smash into anyone, the statistics show that the chances of serious injury to the other party is considerably higher than if they had been in an accident with a normal car.  

See above

I'd ban them altogether and if we can't do that they should have been taxed out of existence by doubling, trebling or yes, quadrupling the VAT on them - AND charging double for their petrol.

Sounds like jealousy "if I can't have one no one else should be able to."  Also Just as you are freely expressing your opinions here and everyone must respect your right to do so, however misinformed and misguided they are, Drivers have the right to express themselves in the free choice of the car they drive.  I don't like nissan micras but I don't go around writing misinformed newspaper articles about them.

There should also be special tolls when they use our jammedup pretendy motorways - which, in Scotland, are no more than clapped out dual carriageways.

You should welcome gas guzzling vehicles then the more fuel they burn the more revenue the government gets to maintain the network.

And don't even start me on the carbon emissions debate.

Lots of large engined 4x4s run on LPG which puts out far less particulates, CO, oxides of nitrogen than your average family car.

But it's not only a green issue.
They also look incredibly ugly and on the whole are driven by incredibly ugly people.

beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder, there are some ugly cars out there but the majority are only 2 wheel drive.

I once suggested that in general the gents who bought them were making up for their deficiencies elsewhere - as in big car, small [wee john thomas].

Did you have a bad experience with a man who drove a 4x4? Is this why you're so against them, try talking to someone about it I feel you have a lot of pent up emotion.

But how, someone asked, did it explain all those women, usually blonde, invariably looking like refugees from Footballers' Wives, who also swan around it them?
Same thing, really.
They're making up for their partner's deficiencies in the bedroom department, aren't they?
I suppose I feel particularly aerated because I live in Edinburgh, how unfortunate for you which has more 4x4s than anywhere else.

Again making up 'facts' got anything to back that statement up?

We also have more bikes. Is it any wonder, friends, that I occasionally feel it is time to remember I am by birth, a Weegie, and come home again?


I hope this has cleared up some of your misconceptions

Kind regards

Chris

Oh and by the way my daily drive has only 2 driven wheels.

Lee_D:
She may have a point. She clearly doesn't have a 4x4 and is clearly a big p*i*k.

How can she possibly say any 101 is ugly is she completely mad  :lol:

As the biggest growth sales market area for cars I'd say she would be about as popular as a dose of the runs in a space station.

She clearly needs to get out more... any volunteers to drop her off at the end of a green lane  :wink:  Which reminds me must fit the shovel on the 101 again. :lol:

Lee_D:
Dear J Burnie

Are they really paying you to produce this drivel? Indeed the fact that the Daily Record has even allowed you to grace it's web site with you ill informed and poorly supported opinion is in it's self beyond belief, consider the environmental impact of energy expended in publishing this rubbish.

You lash out with your tar brush against all those 4x4's outside the school gates. So no one else parks illegally or drives a "gas guzzler" eh.

I have a number of 4x4's... yes a NUMBER, I bet that's got you twitching hasn't it. Yet I'm a school governor responsible most recently for the refreshment of yellow lines outside our school and yet the main problem as I see it is not 4x4's but the ignorant, I include you in the "ignorant" as you clearly demonstrate you slot in to this category.

Mostly my fleet of 4x4's (oh the pain!) consume lots of gas... not Petrol, not Diesel but GAS (LPG) the product of which is far less destructive to the environment than the energy expended in publishing your drivel.

Oh and my wife uses a 4x4 to go to school, in fact she parks it there all day long... causing a major obstruction to er... the teachers car park. Why does she need one? Well her 4x4 is used to tow our Caravan on holidays across Europe because we don't like to think we are using Aircraft to put pollutants right on the O zone and which pay very little tax in consideration to our ground based environmental disasters you speak of. We could go and buy a Ka, but then we would have yet another car... how long would that Ka last? How much carbon emissions would be produced in the creation of that Ka? Far more than the emissions during it's life, yet the 4x4 will outlast such vehicles two fold.

Given the growth in 4x4 sales I'd imagine your comments will be as popular as a dose of the runs with the inhabitants of the European space station.

With regards to 4x4 owners being ugly, having done a quick trawl of the Daily Records web site and seen your picture I'd have to ask how your Humvee is running.

Go and expend your carbon emissions on something useful to society rather than being a drain in it before you start stereotyping others through what reads as jealousy.

Lee Davies.[/quote]

mark.yellow.series.3:
this article so compleatly one sided and has no correct facts in it at all i dont think anyone will take it seriously.
the real problem is to get our side of the storey in the papers.

Lucy1978:

--- Quote ---With regards to 4x4 owners being ugly, having done a quick trawl of the Daily Records web site and seen your picture I'd have to ask how your Humvee is running.

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 :lol:  ROFLMAO

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