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It Won't Go!!!!
Hovis:
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Not really! It fires but still refuses to run. We changed the coil and fuel. We have found that the mark on the pulley is no where near where it should be!!! The pulley is on right, woodruff key is there, but the mark is about 80 degrees off TDC!!!
I had a thought this morning whilst making my merry way to work. Even though it's been "firing" there has been no smoke from the exhaust. Even when Martin put oil in to the cylinders there was nothing. If there was a block in the exhaust would that stop in running?
The only other thing is to check the cam belt it wasn't changed before it stopped running, just wondering if he had made it jump a couple of teeth or something.
Hovis:
It ran.......sort of!! \:D/
We towed ot to my Dads house and I bump started it, it was very hard to keep it going, 5000rpm or so!!!. It didn't sound to good. We are going to check the cam belt, although I think i should have checked it first :oops:
I need to sort it, I'm getting depressed :cry: :cry: :cry:
Thanks for the help so far....
Evilgoat:
If the belt is that far out I would stop playing untill you are sure its not out. You checked the woodruff key hasnt sheered?
Exhaust Blockage could cause that kind of problem but not sure how you'd go about blocking the exhaust. Disconnect the exhaust after the expansion box maybe. If theres a cat, it may be choked but sure there isnt.
Checked you dont have a major vacuum leak, also might be worth checking crankcase ventilation system and make sure the crankcase isnt being pressurised because of something choked there, long shot but I had a dead Rover 216 that suffered from just that.
Hovis:
I've had about enough now. Yesterday we had another play. We checked cam belt and low and behold found the cam shaft 180 degrees out! We swapped it over and tried to start it, it wouldn't. We span the distributor 180 degrees and tried again, it started straight away and ran all on its own. After much cheering and trumpet blowing, we put the rocker cover back on as there was now everywhere. We started it up again and it ran quite nicely no nasty sounds or anything. It was at this point we switched it off to put the fan and belts back so we could run it up to temperature, drive it around to check gearbox etc etc. We went to start it again and it wouldn't!!!!! :(bigangry): It wouldn't even fire. We checked spark and everything was fine with that. Fiddled with timing, although we hadn't moved it from the last time. We even took the fan and belts off, just in case. Still nothing.
We left and went to the pub.
We are now more confused than before and are quite literally out of ideas. I don't get how it can start and run and then not even fire 5 mins after when nothing had been changed.
Hopefully a friend who very wise in the ways of thing mechanical will have a look this week/weekend, but if he can't fix it it'll be an engine change me thinks.
Reward now being offered for information leading to a running engine.
Evilgoat:
Hmm, still sounds like an engine change is a bit extreme.
how about stripping it of all timing related parts (dizzy, cambelt etc) and all ignition system parts
Then methodically work through and strip /rebuild what you can and put it all back, that way you know its all good.
incidentally I had my Vitara doing odd things, misfiring, cutting out, stalling, refusing to start and notcied that my Ignition lights wernt comming on. Bottom row, last fuse nearest the sterring column was corroded to hell. Tapping it would make the car start untill it vibrated a bit too much, would missfirem cough and dies or them pick up again. new few and cleaned contacts cured it.
If you have a haynes manual you should be able to meter the ignition circuit out, for this an analog meter is better as a needle will show you any odd voltage drops more clearly.
Rich
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