Fitting Series onto a 90 chassi.....

[Miniman]

Antbody out there fit a old series onto a 90 chassi. What mods need doing to get it to fit right. Do I need the 90 seat base. Do I need the 90 bulkhead. Will the body fit over the 90 tank. ect ect

[hobbit]

My hybrid is a shortened rangy chassis with a l/wt on top, didn't do the thing myself but it fits, even if the tub floor is more shallow than normal because of the shape of the chassis under it

But using a 90 chassis will be a bit different though I think

[sleeplessparadise]

You traitor you.......apparently you are also a snake in the grass and leaver of leafers (that's from Johnty  :lol: )........ HOW COULD YOU!!!!!!!  :shock:

[blackbob]

i think you need to get new outriggers to mount the body and bulkhead and a good tape measure :D

[bezzabsa]

well as a defender bulkhead fits a series..and the tubs are virtually identical, just a matter of dry fitting to make sure out rigger are where they need to be..
next question is Why???
surely if u have a 90 use that, rather than dropping panels from another vehicle on it?

[bezzabsa]

this is my mates s3 / 90 90 chassis and front end s3 rear tub

[bezzabsa]

not the best pic, but its the rear one
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[bezzabsa]

and that s mine in front  :lol:

[Jim-Willy]

You traitor you.......apparently you are also a snake in the grass and leaver of leafers (that's from Johnty  :lol: )........ HOW COULD YOU!!!!!!!  :shock:

He he he.....  Come on John/Helen give the Lad a break He has spent too long looking at My Truck, He was bound to want one eventually.......... :P  :lol:

[datalas]

Most of the compopnents (bulkhead etc) are the same.. however...

"If a second-hand chassis/monocoque bodyshell is used, the vehicle must pass a ESVA/SVA test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated."

According to the DVLA

[Miniman]

OK then next question is.... After a Q plate has been alocated can I buy a private plate and re register it.... Dont like Q plates at all....

[johnty]

My guess is...miniman wants a series look with a 90 ride..... I could be wrong, but, dropping a series body onto a 90 chassis would not require an SVA and not get a Q plate either, so long as he has the original reg documents exclusively(ie not sold on elswhere).

Since you are wanting a 90 chassis, my guess is it will have to go with 90 axles a 90 gearbox and possible a 90 engine under the points system the chassis gets you 5 and the axles 2 (you need more than 8 points to retain the original reg) 5+2=7 (not enough points) however you would have to mount those axles with the 90 springs which is another 2 points which makes 9   8)  enough to keep the original reg(of the 90 that is).

[datalas]

oooh, this is where it all gets tricky of course :)

You *can* drop most of a series body onto a 90, but bear in mind that the 90 chassis is around 4" longer than a series chassis (it's a 92 and bit wheelbase, vs the 88 of the series 2 / 3) and you will have to do some playing somewhere (ISTR it's mostly in the wings to get a bigger engine into the hole)

If you wanted to keep the original front end (the set back grille) then it is possilbe, but tricky.  It also depends on what engine you have in there,  remember the grille was moved for reasons other than it looking pretty.  Then again, if you go for a 2.5NA or TD then you have around sixteen feet of cowling and fan you can remove and replace with an electric.

Doors are more a less a straight swap, although the stiking plates and locks will have to be re-engineered slightly.

Note, you can't put a series2 front end on a 90, as the headlights were moved into the wings on a whim of constructions and use, so that's where they would have to stay.

As has been pointed out, if you do all of that, you still end up with a 90.  Assuming you retain 8 points from the original 90 you can refrain from an SVA and a Q-Plate.

Stick the 90 chassis under a series, and it's a Q-Plate regardless.  Even if it's a new chassis it's not like for like (unless you can persuade designer chassis et al to certify that it is, and they would (AFAICT) be on rather dodgy ground.  Shortening it by 4 inches would probably fall foul of the "radical modification" clause anyhow)

If you get a Q-Plate, it's a Q-Plate, you aren't (AFAIK) allowed to do private plates on them.

Although, it does make me giggle, given the amount of coil sprung tax exempt series 2's / 3's out there, land rover must have made a lot of 88" range rovers back then,  I didn't think they made any, but what do I know ?

[22900013A]

In all seriousness, for the amount of work, time and cost you are looking at, you would be much better off just buying an early 90. No matter how you coil a series you will end up paying tax/on a q-rg (with the possible excetion of putting a series body on a shortene tax free raro chassis but even thats a grey area). I would say go and get an early 90 (surprisingly similar to a series III) for a couple of grand and you should be laughing...
Also, just because people sell "new" coiler chassies for series motors, that doesn't make it legal to put them under a vehicle and claim the identity, you can't as you lose the points for the suspension (ie you can only replace like for like)

[Xtremeteam]

My guess is...miniman wants a series look with a 90 ride..... I could be wrong, but, dropping a series body onto a 90 chassis would not require an SVA and not get a Q plate either, so long as he has the original reg documents exclusively(ie not sold on elswhere).

Since you are wanting a 90 chassis, my guess is it will have to go with 90 axles a 90 gearbox and possible a 90 engine under the points system the chassis gets you 5 and the axles 2 (you need more than 8 points to retain the original reg) 5+2=7 (not enough points) however you would have to mount those axles with the 90 springs which is another 2 points which makes 9   8)  enough to keep the original reg(of the 90 that is).

just buy a 90 & have a legit non Q plate motor

[Miniman]

Ok.
First I dont have a few grand just to go out and buy a 90.
Second I do have a full garage with all the tools in the world.
Third I AM NOT TRYING TO GET A TAX EXEMPT MOTOR
Fourth I like the look of a series.
Fifth I like the way a coiler gets around off road.

Cheers for all ya help. Every forum I have been on ppl dont read the post properly or jump to conclusions about TAX and its just got up my nose a bit. But cheers all for your help.

I was told that if I had a 90 took the body off and fit a series body and kept the original 90 reg it was totaly legal. If you start to mess with the chassi then you need all the legal stuff.

[Xtremeteam]

Ok.
First I dont have a few grand just to go out and buy a 90.
Second I do have a full garage with all the tools in the world.
Third I AM NOT TRYING TO GET A TAX EXEMPT MOTOR
Fourth I like the look of a series.
Fifth I like the way a coiler gets around off road.

Cheers for all ya help. Every forum I have been on ppl dont read the post properly or jump to conclusions about TAX and its just got up my nose a bit. But cheers all for your help.

I was told that if I had a 90 took the body off and fit a series body and kept the original 90 reg it was totaly legal. If you start to mess with the chassi then you need all the legal stuff.

no wanting sound like iom patronising you BUT either you stretch a series tub to fit the 90 or chop the 90 chassis so it fits the series tub,or just get a cheap 90,or stick ur rs in the wind n start chopping a rangie up to build a hybrid

i bought a series 88 coiler like what u want to do & the guy had choped up a brand new 90 chassis & caused himself miles o work where as if he had got a 90 rear tub it woulda been fine,fit a series front onto a 90

[Miniman]

Thats the best idea.... less hastle

[22900013A]

Yup get a 90 chassis and you can fit the series bulkhead and rad panel to modified 90 wings and rear tub - dont forget you will need to keep the spats so you may as well use the 90 wings and tub. There is a motor like that near me, its not kosher though, but its a series front end on a 90 chassis.