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Def 110 Suspenion lift, how much can I go?

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Greenlanekit:
MOT is looming next week, need new shocks so may just do the lot, my local garage has suggested 1" lift for best results, any ideas?

1? 1.5? 2"? and what do i need to change, radius arms, brake lines?

The vehicle is exmil 110, will have winch on the front and be used for touring, will get a roof rack, little hard core off-roading but, tough greenlane etc.

Scorpion racing are suggesting 1" at £340, with Decarbon shocks, seems OK, other kits at £240 ish with ES9000

drum:
My 110 is a TD5, which has a 2" Lift, although right from the start the back looked like more than that. Also when I then put the winch on the front, I had to put spacers on the front as it sagged right down again. I also have 35" tyres on it  :D

At the time I did shockers and Springs. On an earlier 110 you may well need to do the brake lines at the same time. If you not sure do them  :D

You will then find it's a bit twitchy compared to what your used to. I hoping to cure this with new radius arms, which are sati n the Garage and one day soon will be fitted.


I also did the rear arms, as I was mashing up the bushes

Porny:
What's the fascination with lifting a Landy???

I'd personally go standard height, but heavy duty all round.

No insurance implications, no steering geometry change, no extended brake lines needed (though with 1" not always needed), no excessive bush wear.....

Your Landy, when you've fitted the roof rack will have a higher than standard CoG (centre of gravity) why make it higher??? - And make it easier to roll.

The only time you need a suspension lift is if you're fitting larger than standard tyres (can go quite big before you need a lift).

Another way to look at it....

Take the Camel Trophy, the 110's used went to more extreme places than most people will ever venture... yet the only mod to the suspension was the use of HD springs and shocks.

Same for the G4 Defenders...


Obviously this is only my opinion....others may have different views.

If your spings and shocks are a bit knackered, HD springs will probably give you a 1" lift over what you've already got (if not a bit more if your springs are really shot)

Damper wise.... in all honesty new standard shocks aren't bad, but if you want to spend a bit more, I was always impressed with the DeCarbon shocks I had on my 90"... The Procomp shocks my brothers got on his disco seem ok too.

Other good makes are GAZ, Koni and Bilstein... but price goes up!!!


Ian

Budgie:
There have been a couple of members on here with Discos that have got raised springs from Scorpion and they have said that they sagged at the front when a winch was added, even though they were the correct rating.
I'm not saying this is the same with all of Scorpion's spring, I have a set on our Rangie and that sits fine, but there's no winch on it.  

OME or King springs are a bit more money but you can get them rated to cope with any extra equipment you want to/have fitted.

Like Ian says, why do you want to lift the suspension?
If I were doing it and didn't plan of tyres larger that 235x85's then H/D springs and a set of Procomp ES9000 gas shocks would give better handling and load carrying qualities than you have now and give you a little raise into the bargin.  :wink:

drmike:
I'm with Porny (which doesn't sound too good really) why have a lift at all? I thought the 110 was designed to take quite heavy loads so even HD springs might not be required.

My 90 came with a nominal +2" lift which I removed and it made everything work so much better and felt so much more sure footed. I did fit green stripe springs to the rear which might be +1" I'm not sure but they are softer as I don't need the load carrying ability and do want a nice flexible rear end for trials.

As always IMHO and YMMV!

Mike

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