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Wolfie:

--- Quote from: "Eeyore" ---Did I post it before they did?
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No I think that they were wittering on about it before you posted, as I had done a quick google to see if I could find some info about it.


--- Quote ---As has been pointed out, the US data is statistically meaningless in this country for a whole gammut of reason.
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And how significant is such a small sample <4000 incidents?
And where is the confidence factor for the results?
And does the report compare like for like? It seems to read that there is a 3% risk of injury in a SUV rollover compared to a 2% risk in ALL passencer car accidents.
The report seems to put little emphasis on the important result, that a passengers need to be properly restrained.


--- Quote ---Bigger trucks,
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I wonder if we'll see that Disco next week, looking tiny in the car park outside Sam's? Incidentally 19cm in last 24h, giving alpine base of 149.


--- Quote ---It all contributes to make this research fascinating readin' but fundamentally invalid to the UK. As is much of the data vomited forth by our beloved Anti groups.
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I'll agree with that.

Regards

Wolfie

Eeyore:

--- Quote from: "Wolfie" ---
No I think that they were wittering on about it before you posted, as I had done a quick google to see if I could find some info about it.
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Awww, nuts.  :P


--- Quote ---And where is the confidence factor for the results?
And does the report compare like for like? It seems to read that there is a 3% risk of injury in a SUV rollover compared to a 2% risk in ALL passencer car accidents.
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Hopefully the full report contains a little more in the way of background and hard data, as opposed to JAs quick'n'dirty synopsis. But. I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it. Chances are our Antis have only read an even less informed synopsis themselves......


--- Quote ---The report seems to put little emphasis on the important result, that a passengers need to be properly restrained.
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Jayz, yeah! Half the States have only just made the wearing of seatbelts mandatory!


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I wonder if we'll see that Disco next week, looking tiny in the car park outside Sam's? Incidentally 19cm in last 24h, giving alpine base of 149.

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Didn't it ever look dinky! Remember BWs own Ram 3500? Man that thing was like a minor planet  :shock:  - it even had it's own gravatational system!

Still, the skiing looks like it could be cool. Make mine a barrel of Lions!

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

Horness:
Just as well I've ordered my new kid-carrier then.


SUV's offer no more safety in an accident than any other car.  There are so many variables to take into account between weights, speed, angle and vehicles involved, there is no conclusive way to say this car is safer than another in all situations.

It's all about the driver (of all vehicles involved).

The Renault Laguna I'm thinking of getting later this year to take the role of "family car" has more toy's than Santa on the 24th of December, and in terms of safety beat's my 1998 Disco in every department.  I know which one I'd sooner take my chances in though.

Horness

hobbit:
Err with rolling vehicles, are not a lot of american vehicles wider than the european ones?

laser_jock99:

--- Quote from: "Eeyore" ---Now then,

Copied below is a snippet, lifted verbatim from a respected industry news website ( http://just-auto.com ). I'm passing no judgement on the news it contains, because the research, to my knowledge, has yet to be replicated in the UK.

So, how long do we reakon before this research gets touted by the British antis. Start your watches........

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If you are interested all the 2004 US accident data (we're still waiting for 2005 report) is here:

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/TSFAnn/TSF2004EE.pdf

Trawl through to about page 65 where accidents are broken down by vehicle type and you could probably find something to demonstrate 4x4's are safer to be in than small passenger vehicles in a crash. In fact I think some US pro 4x4 groups did it already.
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