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oops a bit of a naughty by the anti's
PUX:
i think someone should say most mpvs are bigger and just as bad on emissions !!! well done bulli
Dirty Gertie:
Bulli, you'll probably get the standard reply
think Mr Mackie off South Park " 4x4's 're baaaad, m'kaay, don't drive a 4x4 cos they're baaad, m'kaay"
They have no original ideas, they simply regurgitate unfounded claims taken from other (copyright, ha ha!!) sources, I've given up trying to get this silly woman to accept facts, and sick of reading the same old garbage!!
Rich_P:
Just had another browse (as I like to see what new stuff if anything, they have come up with) and found this...
--- Quote ---3. You will breathe cleaner air
Pollution studies have demonstrated that, in slow traffic, the dirtiest air isn't being breathed by the cyclists in the gutter or the people waiting for the bus on the pavement, but by those inside the cars in the middle of the road. If you find this implausible, check where your car's air intake is, and compare it with the exhaust pipe of the 4x4 in front of you.
--- End quote ---
What relevance does a car's air intake have to do with an exhaust? :shock:
The air intake for the car is for the engine, not the bloody passengers. :evil:
Range Rover Blues:
Firstly, let's say this, Greenpiece themselves drive a Landie on autogas, so we can't be that far out of step can we? (thyis is by their own admission BTW)
Secondly, 1/4 of all CO2 emmision in the uk are from road transport? I don't think so actually, if it's a fraction of 1% worldwide. Maybe they stole that snippet from the septics too?
To truly realise a vehicle's environmental footprint, you should look at the whole vehicle life, including the construction and dismantling/recycling. As our landies are so well built that they last more than twice the life of a mere Eurobox, added to the fact that a massive proportion of the emissions/polution created by a car occur during it's construction (creating the required energy, manufacture, steel/plastics production, incineration etc), then for the whole vehicle life, the emissions don't look anywhere near as bad as say a people carrier that gets swapped every 3 years and scrapped in about 8 years.
It's perception and I think a certain amount of jealousy.
I'm not aware that they have brandished us as 'murdering hooligans' lately though, or am I just growing a thick skin?
the loon:
--- Quote from: "Bulli" ---Just sent them a letter, asking them to tell me why i shouldnt drive my 4x4 and their suggestions on alternatives...i did stipulate 'original ideas'
--- End quote ---
If your writing to the alliance aganist urban 4x4 expect there normal answer
no answer at all
From my own expiriance and from what other people have said here on MC and other forums if you write them an email about how they base the biast made up dross (you cant call them facts) or if you make some honest constuctive fact based points to them they seem to suddenly lose all ability to respond
would be intresting to go to one of there events and confront them directly and see if they can talk face to face.
But then that in there wording would be 4x4 drivers being confruntational disruptive blah blah blah ....
at the end of the day we know who's right
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