arbs

[Range Rover Blues]

Dude , the RTI for a landy is the same with/without an arb cos as standard it has very little articulation,

Really?

[rollazuki]

Really?

Looking at that as an example,




Yes really.

[Range Rover Blues]

Really?

Looking at that as an example,


Yes really.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Well we don't all need to be able to stick our back axle behind our head and kiss our a** goodbye as well roll quietly into a ditch.  The RTI for a Range Rover is one of the highest in it's class and only bettered by the 90.  The articulation is not the limiting factor, it's ground clearance (and I don't mean prunung trees)

[Bulli]

every aspect of your chosen vehicles performance is a limiting factor. Articulation, ground clearance, power are all factors that come into play at one time or another.
I would put mine against most out there for articulation but Rolla's zuki is better than mine - you should have a look at it, he works in Sheff. It is 1 of a kind and very ,very capable.

[Budgie]

I would put mine against most out there for articulation but Rolla's zuki is better than mine - you should have a look at it, he works in Sheff. It is 1 of a kind and very ,very capable.

I must be missing something here Bully, I don't doubt that Zuki has a very capable vehicle, but I thought he was talking about articulation with standard suspension?

If you want to base it on uprated/modified with no expence spared then the sky's the limit.  

Me, I happy with what I've got and I don't think it's too bad considering they are 33" tyres.  


If someone's something better then good luck to them and I hope they enjoy using the benifits of it.  

[PUX]

wow wow wow guys chill i have just a 3'lift with shocks and springs and also exteneded brake lines i was merely asking if i took the arbs of would it give me that little extra cheers for all the help

[PUX]

*can of worms, opened, worms everywhere*

I'm watching this thread with interest.
 :lol:

jake wot have i done  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Wanderer]

Hey none of the argument this time has been about (whisper) Dislocation cones.

That's usually where we all get heated :lol:

Me, I've got relocation cones fitted :)

[Bulli]

Guys went out yesterday for a play with roger and had a couple of scares  :lol:  :lol:  now im just getting to grips with diffrent suspension set ups and i have been told if i take me arbs off then this will give me more articalation (spelling) is this true and how bad will it be on the road i also already have dislocation cones any help appreciated  :D oh does any one know wot the tilt angle is on the disco i have looked but cant find or im being blind lol cheers

Budgie , sorry but its you thats missed the point. Yes the thread has woven here and there.Pux's suspension is in no way standard. Pux wanted to know if removing his Anti roll bars would increase his articulation. He has a 3 inch lift longer lines and cones on it. The thread was then somewhat hijacked as we all know the answer is YES - taking them off will allow more movement from the axle(at 3 inch lift you also run the rick of the arb inverting- which would be fun!).
The hijacked thread then began a discussion as to whether you NEED to take them off to have a capable offroader - the answer to that is NO you dont. If you want a very capable offroader then taking off an item designed specifically to limit axle movement becomes necessary at the expense of onroad manners.
Nice piccy by the way good travel ...has it got anti roll bars fitted?

[thumbs]

dont get started on that one!

[PUX]

cheers bulli  :D

[colintandy]

:D simple answer to simple question is yes it will give you better articulation if removed :D

[Jubby]

Someone following me on a greenlane once mentioned that they could actually see that the rear anti-roll  bar was restricting my articulation on a particularly tricky point.   But it didn't really matter at the time.   I removed it   and didn't notice any significant differance on the Road, Although My Springs are Heavy Duty OME's.

Its back on now as It failed an MOT six months later because of it.    The Tester could see the brackets where it had been and unfortunately has had a few Discoverys himself.   Showed me the actual wording in the MOT Handbook.  and yes, It looks like its a failure .  

If you do remove it make sure you don't bin it like I did.

Jubby

[PUX]

na i wont bin em i have a special place for landy bits all over the house the swmbo loves it  :roll:  

[chuggaman]

cones?















did somebody say cones??














 :shock:    oh dear

[PUX]

chuggaman dont even say that word please it will be like world war 3 ere then  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  ccccccc CONES (ops sorry slipped out ) :twisted:

[colintandy]

mine went through mot without both sets on  :D  :D

[davidlandy]

CONES!

those things that dont provide traction eh!

errr whoops , what have i said?

[Budgie]

Budgie , sorry but its you thats missed the point.

Nice piccy by the way good travel ...has it got anti roll bars fitted?

Well, I did ask if I was missing something.  

And no, I took the ARB's off when I fitted the caster correction radius arms.  :D

The front's not as good but it'll do..........................for now!  

[Bulli]

See ARB's dont help with articulation, it is true . Proof of the pudding and all that. You cant improve front articulation without some major reworking. Landrovers design is a good solution to balance on and off road performance...its just not really good at either!

[Budgie]

The front is easy to fix on mine, just need a pair of lowered turrets to give another two inches of travel.  

Just got to get round to rebuilding the Range Rover's engine and getting it installed first. I'll get round it at some point, or I may just install a locker.  :D

[PUX]

Guys thank you for all ur help im gonna take the abs off and see how i get on frm there once again thank you for all ur help i wish u all a happy new year

[Jake]

*can of worms, opened, worms everywhere*

I'm watching this thread with interest.
 :lol:

jake wot have i done  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

*sits in corner laughing*
 :lol:  :lol:

[Bulli]

Budgie even with lowered turrets the front has far less travel than the back which is why they sometimes get upset on larger obsticles, the front isnt capable of articulating like the rear.

[Skywalker]

im gonna take the abs off and see how i get on

That ain't gonna do a lot for articulation ......................  and even less for your brakes  :shock:

 :D  :D  :D

Dave

[PUX]

im gonna take the abs off and see how i get on

That ain't gonna do a lot for articulation ......................  and even less for your brakes  :shock:

 :D  :D  :D

Dave

uh why will it effect the brakes ???? if its the lines then dont worrie as i have extended brake lines  :?

[beast5680]

im gonna take the abs off and see how i get on

That ain't gonna do a lot for articulation ......................  and even less for your brakes  :shock:

 :D  :D  :D

Dave

uh why will it effect the brakes ???? if its the lines then dont worrie as i have extended brake lines  :?

i think cos you said ABS and not ARB   :lol:

[PUX]

ops pig tits for fingers  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[thumbs]

well my rear one is off, front off tomorrow, then give it a go, definrtly cant notice just rear missing

[muddyweb]

The front is easy to fix on mine, just need a pair of lowered turrets to give another two inches of travel.  

I doubt you'll notice much difference.   The front dampers are seldom the reason for the limits on front axle travel.  Lowered turrets will only allow the axle to droop further when the whole axle is dropping out (i.e. both wheels are looking for something to touch).

The front axle struggles to articulate primarily due to the way the front radius arms attach.   If anything, you may find that lowered front turrets will actually limit the articulation of the front axle by reducing the amount of bump travel you have.  (Depends a lot on the body length / stroke of your dampers and your bump stop setup of course)