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thermidorthelobster:

--- Quote from: "Sider" ---Oh, and regarding that argument "they could have been fine drivers before being disqualified" and such, my reply is short and concise:  "MANURE!!!!" (read it as you like).
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I think you're referring to my post, and if so, then you misunderstood what I said.

In the context of a banned driver driving somebody to hospital in the event of a dire emergency, it's wrong to assume that because they are banned, they're a lousy driver.  I imagine as many good drivers get banned as lousy drivers, if they're banned for driving whilst drunk, for example.  I make no criticism of the fact that people are banned;  I'm wholeheartedly behind the idea.  But at the same time, if I were being rushed to hospital on death's door by a banned driver, I think it's a fallacy to assume they were necessarily also a bad driver.

Damonski:

--- Quote from: "thermidorthelobster" ---But at the same time, if I were being rushed to hospital on death's door by a banned driver, I think it's a fallacy to assume they were necessarily also a bad driver.
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Except I wouldnt be very happy if your "banned driver" then crashed into me injuring me and my family, or even our lives. As they wouldnt have any suitable cover and I would be in a biggest pile of doggy doo.

If you banned, your banned, if you drive whilst banned, you need your hands cutting off.  It is not worth the risk to any other member of the public.  And people should think about that first before they commit the crime to get banned in the first place.

Quite simply. If your driving, do not drink "anything" alcoholic.

Sider:
I wasn't making reference to your post, Thermidor. That's the excuse I got from a chap in my company caught driving while disqualified.

He should not be banned because he is a good driver. The fact that he persistently tailgated other cars until he did it with an unmarked police car that stopped him and breathalized him did not make him a bad driver in any way.

I was just ranting. And I would be the first to rush to the car even if disqualified, if my wife or little girl needed emergency treatment. But if I got caught, I would have no one but myself to blame.

thermidorthelobster:

--- Quote from: "Damo" ---Except I wouldnt be very happy if your "banned driver" then crashed into me injuring me and my family, or even our lives. As they wouldnt have any suitable cover and I would be in a biggest pile of doggy doo.
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At the risk of repeating myself (see above), this isn't necessarily the case regarding insurance, although I do take your point.

If I were hit and injured by a driver, the biggest concern would be what happened to me, not whether they were insured or not.  A friend of mine was seriously injured by a normal driver, and it's screwed up his life, regardless of the fact that the other driver was fully insured, because although he lost his job and his house, he's not seen any compensation, and this happened 4 years ago.  The insurance seems very much secondary to the nature of the event, to me.

thermidorthelobster:

--- Quote from: "Sider" ---I wasn't making reference to your post, Thermidor.
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Oh - sorry!


--- Quote ---But if I got caught, I would have no one but myself to blame.
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Totally agree.  Like you, I don't see it as an excuse, but I can see circumstances where it would appear to be the lesser of two evils.

Without wanting this debate to get out of hand - let's say somebody is out laning with a friend, whose vehicle he's not insured to drive (not all policies cover you third-party on other vehicles).  The friend has a severe allergic reaction to a bee sting and needs a tracheotomy / adrenaline / antihistamines otherwise they may well die, and they are out of mobile reception.

Should this person drive the vehicle illegally and without insurance, and risk the consequences, or should they run several miles to try to get mobile reception, by which time the friend may be dead?  I know which I'd do, in those circumstances.

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