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V8MoneyPit:
--- Quote from: "datalas" ---..... It's a bit of a shame, but at the end of the day the vote is the only real power you have to affect change, it might not be much.. but every little helps.
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But there is no way of voting if you cannot see an advantage between parties. It's not that I don't want to vote, it's simply a problem recognising any advantage in a specific party over another.
But I like TTL's idea :lol: Or you could name it "No idea what I'll do if I get in, but vote for me anyway party". At least it would be more honest than any of the others. Now that's an advantage straight away!
dimoven:
All politicians flatter to deceive,Blair was deceived by ( the flattery. of George Bush).
thermidorthelobster:
--- Quote from: "Bulli" ---Apathy really is the problem
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Yeah... spose...
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muddyweb:
It is correct that 'spoiled' ballot papers are no longer counted. It used to be the case that you could put a vote in all the boxes.. all these spoiled papers would be voted and would give the opportunity for people to tell the politicians that we didn't like them. Sadly, these are now just ignored.
In my view, part of the public disillusionment with politics these days is what can only be described as playground behaviour in the commons. The issue the Conservatives have had in the past is that pretty much every leader they have elected since Mrs Thatcher has had virtually nothing to say, and has been very good and standing in the house saying "yah, boo sucks" at the other side.
Would I want to go back to Thatcher-esque politics ? Never in a million years. I can't accept that just because she did what she said she was going to that somehow that excused the way her goverment systematically destroyed the country for the benefit of themselves and their friends. Definite action is all well and good, provided it isn't carried out for personal gain and with no regard to the welfare of the populous... which in my view, was one of the main driving forces behind much of the Thatcher administration.
There are only a few politicians I have respect for.... the first is Boris Johnson. He's a bit flakey, but he actually has the guts to come out and tell some hard truths about the world, and refuses to apologise for them just because other people disagree.
The second, is a local man for me... Paddy Ashdown. I met him a couple of times through work, and came to have the utmost respect for him. He had integrity, compassion and more than anything had lived in the real world, and really did listen to his constituents. He would, in my view have made an excellent PM, but became the victim of yet another tabloid 'hit'
One of the main things Ashdown didn't do, was spend all his time saying... "Well, we're better than them", "We're not as bad as this lot" or "That wasn't our fault, that was because the other lot messed it up"... when he thought government policy was good he publically agreed with it.... when he thought it was bad, he explained *why* and put forward his views on how it could be made better... wouldn't that make a nice change in today's commons.
Stuff party politics... we want politicians who will represent our views, and campaign for the people who elected them.
One more thing in my rant :-)
I get *very* upset when people say "I couldn't be bothered to vote"... without wanting to sound cliched, it is one of the most important rights we have in society... people died (literally) for the privilege.... and people around the world are still dying just to get the right of some form of democracy. Use your vote... even if you vote for a complete outsider candidate... if the electoral turnout continues to fall, then the consequences could be unthinkable.
Also... whilst debating on forums like this is all very theraputic.... in isolation it is completely pointless. If all you do is moan and whine on a forum, then you deserve everything you get.... Make your voice heard where it actually matters... write to your MP, and let him / her know your grievances. Yes, they may not always reply but they will know we are here.
If we want our country back, then we must go out there and get it
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