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Henry Webster:

--- Quote from: "drum" ---Does anybody know if the EBC SUV\4x4 Uprated are the Same as the GreenStuff pads?? Some seem to refer to them as one, and some refer to them as the other??
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Yup they are the same thing.  Basically they use the GreenStuff friction material but market them as SUV/4x4 Uprated.

Hope they work well for you.

H

V8MoneyPit:
There are some simple rules to apply here. I go through this almost daily with Mini owners!

If you can stamp on the brakes and lock up the wheels, this is the most braking 'power' you can achieve. If you are just trying to reduce the pedal effort required to achieve the same force at the wheels you need to change the hydraulic ratio. This is achieved by using a larger ratio servo or smaller diameter master cylinder or larger diameter caliper pistons. Or a combination. Alternatively, larger diameter discs and appropriate calipers. This means the pads are acting at a larger radius and so need less effort to retard the rotation than a smaller disc.

If you are finding the brakes are fading you need to dissipate the heat. This is achieved with vented discs or similar.

The various pad materials available are designed to work most efficiently and various temperatures. If you were flat out round a race track for 20 laps, the brakes would be operating at a higher temperature than out for a Sunday drive. The pad material for each situation would need to be different to work at it's best.

drum:

--- Quote from: "Henry Webster" ---
--- Quote from: "drum" ---Does anybody know if the EBC SUV\4x4 Uprated are the Same as the GreenStuff pads?? Some seem to refer to them as one, and some refer to them as the other??
--- End quote ---


Yup they are the same thing.  Basically they use the GreenStuff friction material but market them as SUV/4x4 Uprated.

Hope they work well for you.

H
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Thanks Henry.

drum:
Steve,

I have ABS so it's not quite so simple as locking the brakes up. The only ttimes I've every triggered the ABS are either on ice, or muddy\wet grass etc. I've never triggered it on a road situation.

I feel that sometimes the breaking could be better, I don't think that if I stamped on the breaks at 30 I would trgger the ABS, or skid. so ideally I think more friction is the answer.

Given that I need new pads anyways, I'll start by upgrading them, to the recommended. They're not that much more than LR ones anyway, and I wouldn't use Pattern Parts on brakes anyway. If that doesn't improve things, I'll try discs and calipers.

Jim-Willy:
I'll be interested in what you think of them Drum cos my brakes are pants.

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