Chat & Social > The Bar - General Chat
Speeding, likely outcome?
Wanderer:
I don't know where everyone's getting an instant ban from?
If he pleads mitigating circumstances not to get a ban then he can walk away with a fine.
I know from experience. My BIL got caught on the M1 after having been at Donington he was doing over 135 on a M/C. The coppers couldn't catch him but he pulled into the Leicester Forest East services and got caught.
I took him to court as he was expecting a ban already having 9 points.
He walked away with a large fine and no points (Don't ask me how).
He got done again and got away with a 21 day ban in a different court.
So there is an option for him to plead insanity or whatever and given the story you've told us he might get away easy especially if the car is vital to his work.
I must admit that my BIL had a company employing about 80 people and they relied on him being able to visit clients.
I, in no way condone this sort of driving and reckon a few months of catching the bus or pedalling a pushbike might have been better.
Bulli:
I dont know we all hear stories of peolpe getting off with a lot worse...sadly thats never happen to me. I have never been done for speeding at anywhere near that speed (42 in a 30 at 6am on a deserted road through an industrail area and 77 on the motorway)but as someone said it all comes down to the police statement and the beak on the day.
The question i have is what speed did he think he was doing? My shogun shows 80 on the clock at a true 71mph ( checked by gps) what was on the clock and why the hurry?
Hopefully he will escape a long ban and learn a valuable lesson...speed really can be a killer.
xmob:
--- Quote from: "MuddyMike" ---
--- Quote from: "xmob" ---
--- Quote from: "TimM" ---No, that's just for when you are arrested.
--- End quote ---
Nope, it's for a caution also. I know. :oops:
--- End quote ---
Do tell more, what format did it take for instance.
Mike
--- End quote ---
From http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section3/chapter_k.html:
--- Quote ---The National Standards for Cautioning require that the following conditions are met before a caution may be administered by the police:
there is a realistic prospect of conviction;
the offender admits the offence;
the offender (or appropriate adult) understands the significance of a caution and gives informed consent to being cautioned.
--- End quote ---
Mine was something along the lines of:
"You are hereby being cautioned for the offence of driving without displaying a valid road fund license ( :oops: ). You have the right to remain silent yada yada yada...."
I believe these days it's "You're not obliged to say anything, but anything you do say will be taken down yada yada yada"
To which I was asked if I would like to respond. However, having just read the above from the CPS web site, it wasn't done properly. The dialogue went something like this:
Officer: Would you like a caution?
Me: :shock:
Officer: You are hereby yada yada yada
Me: :shock: Do I have to say something?
Officer: Yes
This was in Cleveland in the days of Ray "Robocop" Mallon and his Zero Tollerance days. So I only met 2 of the above 3 criteria, and kinda had it implied that my right to silence didn't exist.
However, I did wrong and got caught. So I'm not going to grumble too much.
EvilEd:
I condone speeding :)
In the right car, with the right weather, and with the right attention and skills to do so.
I like my little nutty car, its great, fun to drive and can break the 70 limit dead quick. but, it can also stop from 100 to 0 faster than a corsa 1.1 can get from 60 - 0! It has Stability control, Traction Control, ABS etc, and is far safer doing 90+ mph in my hands than a corsa 1.1 in a fresh drivers hands. Driving fast does not mean driving stupidly. Anyone driving like a donkey near a school during the day deserves everything they get, but at 3am, on a deserted motorway where pedestrians are banned, slow moving vehicles are banned, and you have a clear view for ~ 6+ miles, where is the harm? And why would you let police do it if it was unsafe? Having driven legally on the autobahns at ~140mph and been flashed over by various cars, I have to laugh at the "It's dangerous to speed" quotes. Germany has more motorways, higher standard limits even on the restricted motorways. More users of those motorways and less accidents, less fatalities.
It has been proven that driving faster can focus your attention more than being restricted to a limit where you gain a false sense of security. Both the AA and RAC have attempted to get motorway limits raised as cars are far safer and more stable now than they were 20 years ago.
Just my tuppenceworth.... Hope he learns his lesson but doesn't get a ban. You do have one hell of a point about his observation skills when driving :? but he will be far more observant after this :)
thermidorthelobster:
--- Quote from: "EvilEd" ---I condone speeding :)
In the right car, with the right weather, and with the right attention and skills to do so.
--- End quote ---
The problem is, many people who end up mowing down a pedestrian weren't driving along thinking they were being a loon. Your judgment may be fine, but other people may have a different idea of what conditions, attention etc make it "OK" to speed.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version