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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Colin 009 on November 02, 2006, 16:27:22
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http://members.shaw.ca/jbarge/tires.html
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That was a good idea making that a sticky.
Now, anybody with the experience care to tell me how (if it all) that those required mods change with a 2" lift?
UPDATE
Here's a handy link for size calculations:
http://www.alloywheels.com/tyrecalc.asp
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needs updating , doesnt go up to 37inch!
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Not to take anything away from the author of the site, but I've copied the info to my site as well.
http://www.horness.com/discovery/tiresizes.htm (http://www.horness.com/discovery/tiresizes.htm).
If anyone needs any changes, or needs to add specs etc., PM me. :wink:
Horness
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Just to echo the earlier post, I need to know if I can fit 235/85/16's to a Disco 1 with a 2" lift without having to cut any arches etc.
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no
you need a camel cut
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Or as those of us with a Range Rover call it, standard.
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Will 255/85 r16 tyres fit on 16x7j rims??
thanks in advance
Neil....
Also has anyone got these fitted to a 200tdi, if so how does it affect pulling away from a stanstill??
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They may well fit but for safety you ideally want a 9 or 10" wide rim, with a 7" wide rim you stand the chance of them rolling off when cornering etc.
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cheers Chris, i may well stick with the setup i've got them.Was just watching a set of alloys on ebay off a 300tdi and it got me thinking as i will need to think about replacing my tyres in a few months and thought about going up to that size but might just get another set of 235/85 16's instead :cry:
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Will 255/85 r16 tyres fit on 16x7j rims??
thanks in advance
Neil....
Also has anyone got these fitted to a 200tdi, if so how does it affect pulling away from a stanstill??
They may well fit but for safety you ideally want a 9 or 10" wide rim, with a 7" wide rim you stand the chance of them rolling off when cornering etc.
On what information do you base that reply??
Based on the information from from BFGoodrichs web site
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs/mud-terrain-t-a-km/1152.html
in which case a 255/85r16 will fit on 6.5 to 8 inch wide rims.
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slightly different sizes but i have 255/70/r16's on a 3dr 200tdi disco, pulls really well off the line and didn't notice any difference in the acceleration off the line since i changed to them after having 235/85/r16's but then I tweeked the injector pump so its a lot faster now, btw i have them fitted to 7 x 16" mods and they make the ruck a bit more spongy but I have hammered them round corners ok without em falling off!!
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Will 235/70/16 MT and 235/85/16 MT fit on a Disco 200 without MODS?
Also If they will fit would they fit when mounted on Modular rims (7x16) with a 30mm offset?
Hope someone can help :?
Taz
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Not to take anything away from the author of the site, but I've copied the info to my site as well.
http://www.horness.com/discovery/tiresizes.htm (http://www.horness.com/discovery/tiresizes.htm).
If anyone needs any changes, or needs to add specs etc., PM me. :wink:
Horness
Just read your post. Looks like 235/70/16 MT it is then. Will they still fit if mounted onto 7x16 modular rims with 30mm offset (compared to standard steel rims)
Example rim.
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o136/Telaren/IMG_1964.jpg)
Cheers Taz
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Guys,
Can I ask if a 245/70R16 will go on a 300tdi with no mods. The link at the top of the page says no mods, only mods required to rear wheel arches if its a 245/75.
Only asking as the new tyres I have bought compared to my old ones are larger, much larger :shock:
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Will 31/10.50x15 Kumho KL71's fit on a standard height Disco without having to cut it,cheers in advance Andy.
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Will 31/10.50x15 Kumho KL71's fit on a standard height Disco without having to cut it,cheers in advance Andy.
No, you will have to trim the rear wheel arches. I have 31x10.5R15 BFG's on mine and the rear wheels catch badly.
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Hey colin!
On the tyre fitting guide are the modifations to a standard disco with no lift?
Thanks!
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What would be the largest tyres i can fit on standard alloys on my 200Tdi Disco with,
Standard
1" Suspension lift
1" Suspension lift and 1" body lift
1" Suspension lift 2" body lift.
Cheers. :)
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Hay guys will Kumho KL71's 205 80 R16 fit on my standard 300tdi?
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Hay guys will Kumho KL71's 205 80 R16 fit on my standard 300tdi?
Yes as this is a standard size for the Disco (usually fitted on steel wheels) and is only 1-2 mm difference in diameter to a 235/70 which is of course the other standard size. The width of course is 30mm narrower than a 235
My set of "road" wheels have 235/70's with a 205/80 as the spare (I think of it as no different to a space saver spare)
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There is no 265/70/16 :(
What will need to be done for these to fit? i have no lift at the mo so is it advisable to wait?
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..any volunteers to add to the chart (brilliant idea btw!) to cover stock disco, 1" lifted, 2" lifted etc..
will 235/85/16`s in chunky MT mode fit, as the same size AT`s lok a little close (+2" suspension lift fitted and trimmed, correction arms/bushes fitted) :wink:
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235/85/16 colway mt's on standard disco alloys fit on a disco with no lift only a camel cut and longer steering stop bolts.
Gav.
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I've got a series 1 disco with 2" lift & running 235/85r16 recipe trials with rear arches cut at rear. ( is that what you call camel toe? ) :?
Don't get no problems with rubbing
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having done a google search for "camel toe cut" i REALLY think someone should explain properly!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
**warning, only repeat my mistake if you are over 18 and/or have a good sense of humour!** :lol:
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For what it's worth, I have 33/12.50/15s on my disco... heavily cut back arches front and rear, and they protrude about 2" from the sides ( borderline legal ) and with a 2" lift and extended stops I have no problems until I tow or have a heavy load...in which case they rub on occasions... on full lock they catch the radius arms, which is to be expected... They look cool but I wish I'de gone for a smaller size...
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There is no 265/70/16 :(
What will need to be done for these to fit? i have no lift at the mo so is it advisable to wait?
greenway do that size in macho aint it pajero mk 2 size
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There is no 265/70/16 :(
What will need to be done for these to fit? i have no lift at the mo so is it advisable to wait?
greenway do that size in macho aint it pajero mk 2 size
odd size, but they are listed by colway.... the imperial equiv is 31 x 10.5 R16
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235/85/16 colway mt's on standard disco alloys fit on a disco with no lift only a camel cut and longer steering stop bolts.
Gav.
I've got a series 1 disco with 2" lift & running 235/85r16 recipe trials with rear arches cut at rear. ( is that what you call camel toe? ) :?
Don't get no problems with rubbing
having done a google search for "camel toe cut" i REALLY think someone should explain properly!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
**warning, only repeat my mistake if you are over 18 and/or have a good sense of humour!** :lol:
Sorry was very tired when posted was talking about the top quote??
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There is no 265/70/16
Really?????
I have to wonder what Iv'e been running on for the past couple of years. 265/70 R16 G-TRAX AT, is what it says on all five tyres on mine. Mates Disco has the same size in MT.
Lite cut to rear arches, and trim plastic vallance under ftont bumper, no lift needed.
Pete
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having done a good deal i`m just about to DOWNSIZE to 235/75 R16 in colway MT form, i`m thinking this will assist in gearing, increase claerance(as 235/85`s were a tad close for my liking...
i understand this is standard size on the 300TDI`s?
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Hey guys i have a2" lift, i've cut out my arches alot to fit wheel arch spats front and back (Including the rear doors!) and i have extended bump stops. Can someone give me an idea on the biggest tyre i can fit on standard freestyle alloys?
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Hi guys,
My 200 disco is running 235/85/16 at's with a 2 inch suspension lift and no apparent arch trimming - I was wondering if my 265/75/16's on 8 spokes will fit off my 130 defender as a temporary thing until I can afford a better set of boots for the disco or will I need to do a bit of trimming? :?: .
Also, as the discovery is pretty much a play thing, is it worth the hassle of trying to squeeze something like 35/12.5/15s on or should I just stick to a decent 235/85 or similar? Been looking at either recips, machos or insa turbo special tracks
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I thought this was of use
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html
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Hi guys,
My 200 disco is running 235/85/16 at's with a 2 inch suspension lift and no apparent arch trimming - I was wondering if my 265/75/16's on 8 spokes will fit off my 130 defender as a temporary thing until I can afford a better set of boots for the disco or will I need to do a bit of trimming? :?: .
Also, as the discovery is pretty much a play thing, is it worth the hassle of trying to squeeze something like 35/12.5/15s on or should I just stick to a decent 235/85 or similar? Been looking at either recips, machos or insa turbo special tracks
do you want width (thus greater footprint over the area) or bite (narrower tyre with more pressure over the area)??
personal choice
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I have got a 1994 v8 disco with a 2inch lift, anyone no the best tyre size to put on it?? (well what will fit with no chopping). Also anyone know what kind of milage you get out of the bf goodrich ATs and the bf goodrich MTs, I can't decide which ones to go for, Cheers rob
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ive got a set of 286/75/16 BFG muds which were run on a td5 defender driven hard most of the time. towing too. theyve done 60,000 miles and are only half worn at most.
id recommend them to anyone. great in the dry and wet!
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I've looked in all the sources I can think of and not managed to find this, so can anyone here help? I'm trying to find either the "official" tyre speed rating for a 300 TDI Disco or if there isn't one an official top speed?
Need to know as I fancy a set of Insa Turbo Saharas next time and while I have no intention of doing 106mph (they're Q-rated) I know insurers can be awkward if you don't fit the correct rating.
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Right..... Standard discovery..... 2" lift comming at somepoint in the near future.... whats the max size I can go for?? Bearing in mind Camel Cut is not an option at this time??
Tah moochly in advance as always....
Dave
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hi folks :)
have got a 94 300 tdi disco riding on 235/70/16 whats the biggest i can go to without a lift of panel chopping anyone used insa rangers any good as i used to have colway ctrax a t in 31/10.50/15 8 spokes on my 200 tdi with hd standard hieght springs, rubbing on rear arches on heavy offroading.
anyone have pictures or drawing with measurment on how much to cut out on a camel cut ?
discosfa :D
anyone got any idea's
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Hi folks got a disco 1 that will be running a 2" lift kit, will 265/70/16 fit ok ??
If not what will i need to do to get them to fit ??
cheers
tony
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right ho chaps
got 2" lift on my disco and some one has kindly left me a set of 7.50r 16 michelins on wolf rims :lol: tried them on full lock and they dont rub like my 235's do ,but would I have to cut the arches ???? for when I go off road????
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Does anyone know if this would work? I've checked the figures on that site:
I'm considering a 1in lift and 235/85 R16s with trimmed arches. Looking at the guide the 235/85s are 2.3in larger diameter than the 235/70s, which equates to an extra inch above and below the axle. A 1in lift should provide the extra clearance needed above them?
I'm trying to avoid lifting it too much as I realise this will make it less stable on side slopes and while cornering. Plus it'll reduce wear on propshafts, etc. Not likely to happen for a while but I'm just gathering information with a view to assembling the parts over time.
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One of my mates in the Discovery Owners Club is running 235/85R16 with no lift! Just new suspension and a camel cut.
I've looked at it with mine which is also on new springs and it looks fine for me as well, so a purchase is imminent.
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Fair enough - I notice a lot of 1in lift springs are also described as "heavy duty" I think I'd still buy new shocks, springs, and brake lines as that'd give me more droop too.
I don't want to end up with a huge-tyred monster that is only really challenged by pay and play sites, as I much prefer a bit of gentle laning. However, on a couple of occasions I've been in a situation where an extra inch or so of clearance under the diffs would do wonders, and an inch of lift won't run into problems with castor angle or propshafts.
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I have searched and looked all this post so I hope this question from a novice does not make you snigger too much.
I have a 2001 V8 with 18s, I wanted a spare set of rims so I have got hold of set of 16s with 255-65 (actually from a Range Rover Mark II HSE)
I just assumed they would be alright as the tyre places show them interchangeably
Little bro sighed and pointed me to the forum as talking about 'normal' rim sizes was giving him a migraine
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Hope this helps someone??
Disco 200 / 300tdi standard height will run something like "General Grabers" 235/85r16 & will just require a trim to the rear of the rear arch lip. We done this on a friends 300tdi & he had no troubles even when towing heavy loads!
I used to have a Disco 1 series with a 2" lift running 235/85r16's & camel cut to rear. When purchased it had colway mt's that were nacked so fitted "Receip Trials" same size with & had no rubbing issues! And no problem's with uj's or standard props!
Then changed tyres to 238/85r16 "Insa Turbo" special tracks!! thinking more agressive but same size so wouldn't have any issue's!! Had rubbing issue's when offroading only! I had to cut quite a bit from front arches as they ripped both front wings & started to peel outer door skin from rear doors! Turn's out when measuring they tyre's the Insa's were 1" bigger.
As for the insurance side of thing's (re speed rating earlier in posts) don't think it will cause you any problem as the tyres are still rated to over 70mph and that is the speed limit! :-k :police: