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Post by: Thrasher on March 03, 2008, 16:08:34
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/nimmanual/NIM39140.htm

Scary stuff...
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Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on March 03, 2008, 16:59:24
Nice to see that the HMRC has our best interests at heart :roll:
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Post by: strapping young lad on March 03, 2008, 17:55:07
hehe

thing is

ONE line would have been fine

what gives with putting it on every bloomin line

imagine the carbon footprint it causes people to scroll down :P
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Post by: The Smiths on March 04, 2008, 01:46:08
excellent :-$
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Post by: stuvy on March 04, 2008, 03:19:28
hehe

thing is

ONE line would have been fine

what gives with putting it on every bloomin line

imagine the carbon footprint it causes people to scroll down :P

so your not suposed to print it off? lol :P
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Post by: mike142sl on March 04, 2008, 10:00:04
Excellent, I have to write EIRs (Environmental version of FOI) I think I'll use that as a template for future requests.
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Post by: datalas on March 04, 2008, 10:14:00
Anyone else think it's a bit weird that the HMRC don't have security in place to stop them posting unencrypted CDs full of private data, but do have security in place to stop anyone reading what you're supposed to do if it's stolen :?
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Post by: Freelander1980 on March 04, 2008, 11:13:23
Sorry that data has been removed,

Nice so what do i do if i suspect fraud
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Post by: crazymac on March 04, 2008, 21:58:14
Anyone else think it's a bit weird that the HMRC don't have security in place to stop them posting unencrypted CDs full of private data, but do have security in place to stop anyone reading what you're supposed to do if it's stolen :?

Small point, but I believe it wasn't HMRC that lost them discs!! They were sent by the INTERNAL mail system, which by a strange turn of fate, is run by a private company I.E. Capita!! its them that balsed up, not HMRC :police:
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Post by: datalas on March 04, 2008, 23:49:52
Anyone else think it's a bit weird that the HMRC don't have security in place to stop them posting unencrypted CDs full of private data, but do have security in place to stop anyone reading what you're supposed to do if it's stolen :?

Small point, but I believe it wasn't HMRC that lost them discs!! They were sent by the INTERNAL mail system, which by a strange turn of fate, is run by a private company I.E. Capita!! its them that balsed up, not HMRC :police:

The fact the discs were lost is to my mind secondary, the real issue is that an unpriviledged user had/has access to private data which is outside of their remit,  and that they are requested to put this on CDs unencrypted and to post it via any mechanism in that state.

Whomever is responsible for that has no idea about information security, VPNs, networking or how pish the postal system in this country is.

Note: not the fault of anyone in HMRC or any of it's contractors as individuals but a jolly good indicator of how messed up the entire system is.
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Post by: crazymac on March 05, 2008, 00:12:33
You are so right Datalas, I feel a bit of a rant coming on!

As you say, it highlights how messed up it all is these days :x The government have been steadily de-valueing all of their departments, closing places down, keeping the pay rises down, privatising departments, they have even gone into "hot desking" in some places. Thats where you have say 15 employes for every 12 desks!! nothing personal allowed on them and grab any desk you can!! how can that be good working practice? and then they look to blame someone when it all goes wrong!!  :doh:

And what REALLY bugs me, is it was less than 30% of the voting public that put them in power!!! how can that be right??

Bah!!! I'm off!
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