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would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« on: September 12, 2010, 15:11:17 »
hi,
    as it says on the lid..would it fit? ive found a series 2 and a 2a in a farmers hedge round the corner from me, both are fitted with the 2.25 petrol (so ive been told) and as ive got a 2.5td sat in the yard i was thinking i could well be on my way to a cheap play toy...

   cheers, james
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 16:31:42 »
yepp, will fit without too much hassle as block castings are almost identical.
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 18:24:50 »
Yes it will easily fit, I had a 2.5td in mine but removed it. Lack of power. Ive fitted the 200tdi instead and have just helped my mate fit the 300tdi in his series 3. Using all the series running gear.

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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 22:38:35 »
how do the gearboxes get on with the tdi's i would have thought they would be too weak for the all the torque???
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 17:24:03 »
All works fine, common sense really. If you drive normal, off road and on. Half shafts will brake if you do alot of wheel spinning on tarmac in four wheel drive.

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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 21:12:08 »

  well ive been and looked (and bought)..ones a series3 with a perkins diesel engine and the others supposidly a late series 2 although the head lights arent in the middle there on the outside..is this normal? its on the old f plate which i think makes it tax exempt (ill look into that)..

  whats the perkins like compared to the 2.5td?
 
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 10:14:29 »
Regarding lights I think they were put into the wings in 1968 - 69

If i'm wrong sombody will say i have a Series 2a 1970 the lights in the wings And that on a H plate
Think Tax excempt is up to 1 jan 1973

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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 12:16:10 »
Yep, if it was registered before 1st Jan 1973 it's tax exempt - in other words anything with an "K" on the end of the plate or earlier will be, some "L" will also be although only if registered between August and December of that year.

IIRC the Perkins was a popular swap, I'd probably find it horribly sluggish after a good TDI but it must have had its merits.
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 20:35:54 »
The perkins is a good old realible lump for chugging around but if you want go somewhere go for the 200,with 3.5 diffs and a overdrive im getting 45mpg on veg oil,55p a litre which works out at 100mpg price equivalent and have been GPSed at 115mph.
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 20:57:56 »
 
    I do like the sound of that! However im not sure which direction to go in..Ive got them both home and had a much better look..the series 2 chassis is shot to pieces but it is tax exempt has an over drive and free wheeling hubs. The series 3 has a pretty solid chassis, the diesel lump and the truck cab which I prefer and a nice ifor williams rear cover..

   The mrs has fallen in love with series 2 and has suggested I rebuild both! bless her! Im thinking strip both down rebuild the series 2 using the solid chassis a td lump, over drive and the free wheeling hubs.. The series 3 using a galvanised chassis ive just been told about, either parabolics or coils, a tdi lump and rangie axles. Anything left over ill try and flog as i go along to fund the builds..its either that or one of my kidneys!

  Anyone know what p38 axles are like? there must be loads of them around going cheap!
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2010, 20:24:31 »
Just one prob with p38 axles,the diff is on the wrong side!! :doh: :doh: :doh:
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 21:49:45 »

  cancel that idea then! im thinking leaf springs are they way forward anyway...sticking with the montego lump, overdrive and free wheeling hubs..keeps the price of the build down which is the main sticking point
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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 21:13:32 »
Yep, if it was registered before 1st Jan 1973 it's tax exempt - in other words anything with an "K" on the end of the plate or earlier will be, some "L" will also be although only if registered between August and December of that year.

It's actually build date, not registration date that they go on - mine was built in 1966, but not registered until 1974 (Ex MOD) so is Tax Exempt on a 'P' plate. There's quite a few of them around so worth checking with Gaydon.

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Re: would a 2.5td from a 90 fit into a series 2 or 2a?
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 21:18:35 »

    I do like the sound of that! However im not sure which direction to go in..Ive got them both home and had a much better look..the series 2 chassis is shot to pieces but it is tax exempt has an over drive and free wheeling hubs. The series 3 has a pretty solid chassis, the diesel lump and the truck cab which I prefer and a nice ifor williams rear cover..

   The mrs has fallen in love with series 2 and has suggested I rebuild both! bless her! Im thinking strip both down rebuild the series 2 using the solid chassis a td lump, over drive and the free wheeling hubs.. The series 3 using a galvanised chassis ive just been told about, either parabolics or coils, a tdi lump and rangie axles.

Just a couple of things to remember - the S2 chassis will have slight differences to the S3 chassis, and technically the ID of the vehicle is carried by the chassis. If you use the old S3 chassis then you 'should' keep the S3 ID and reg. However, if the chassis number is no longer visible 'who's to know' :)

 






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